Asa Bear Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Carrying on from the "building a gun cabinet thread" I was wandering what would be required for something larger. I am in the process of having plans drawn up for an extension to the kitchen and wanted to incorporate a gun cupboard. Something floor to ceiling with a kitchen cupboard door disguising it. My idea is two block walls onto the outside wall with a steel door if needs be at the front. Would a steel "lid" at ceiling height also be required? Anybody got anything like this already in use? Edited April 23, 2012 by Logo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'd be interested in this one too, my cabinet is full and I have a brick boiler cupboard in the kitchen sat there empty that I could convert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Kitchen = steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Paul Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 You can download the "Firearms security handbook 2005" from National archives. It's the Home office document produced as guidance to police forces. Page 35 onwards describes Gun enclousre & Gun room requirements (Wall construction, type of locks, hinges etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Do a search on the topic. Its been done before and there was some good info on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Bear Posted April 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 You can download the "Firearms security handbook 2005" from National archives. It's the Home office document produced as guidance to police forces. Page 35 onwards describes Gun enclousre & Gun room requirements (Wall construction, type of locks, hinges etc). Thanks Paul. Looks like I'll just need a solid door and a piece of metal mesh in the ceiling above. I'll print that off and get my feo in. Best if he's on side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Paul Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Thanks Paul. Looks like I'll just need a solid door and a piece of metal mesh in the ceiling above. I'll print that off and get my feo in. Best if he's on side. Totally agree with you and as you say, have it printed off so it's there in front of you.... You can basically "Talk him through it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Gould Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 this is my a part of my bed room i did up for my guns and stuff just to give you a few ideas maybe no yet fitted a door to it though, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/004hh.jpg/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 A steel container clad with brick would make a good gun room and would be very easy to convert Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 my gun room the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I was looking at putting one of these on a brick cupboard when I finally get round to doing up a spare bedroom and was thinking of putting a steel plate on the ceiling and floor. http://www.ajsteeldoors.co.uk/Menu-item-for-category-listing-module-70/product/show/cid-103/name-12-point-locking-high-security-steel-door-set-standard-duty/Itemid-52/category_pathway-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Bear Posted April 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 my gun room the door I'm presuming you're not in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 i presume you found that pic on the net as ive seen that before somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 i presume you found that pic on the net as ive seen that before somewhere. That was Charlton Hestons gunroom who you can see was an avid collector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo90 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 yes that was charlton hestons gun room......... just thought it was funny have heard of people building gun rooms in old houses, especially old stone built rooms with only one door, only needed a steel security door and it passed. i think the standard for a shotgun cabinet is that it needs to withstand handheld tools for 30minutes to pass........... i heard of a gypsy who applied for a sgc and was refused as the feo pointed out that mounting a cabinet in a caravan wouldn't take much to remove the cabinet and the guns......he built a brick built shed with a steel door and got his sgc then.(HE WAS OBVIOUSLY ON A PERMANENT PITCH-NOT ON A HARD SHOULDER OF A ROAD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 i think the standard for a shotgun cabinet is that it needs to withstand handheld tools for 30minutes to pass........... I can get into any gun cabinet in a hell of a lot less than that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 i thought it was 5 minutes resitance to hand tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Bear Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I was looking at putting one of these on a brick cupboard when I finally get round to doing up a spare bedroom and was thinking of putting a steel plate on the ceiling and floor. http://www.ajsteeldoors.co.uk/Menu-item-for-category-listing-module-70/product/show/cid-103/name-12-point-locking-high-security-steel-door-set-standard-duty/Itemid- 52/category_pathway-0 http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/police/operational-policing/firearms-handbook-2005/firearms-security-handbook?view=Binary A 44mm fire door would suffice. Mind you that's a good price for a steel security door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/police/operational-policing/firearms-handbook-2005/firearms-security-handbook?view=Binary A 44mm fire door would suffice. Mind you that's a good price for a steel security door. A mate of mine built a gun room and he had a fire door fitted, his FEO asked him to line the inside with steel plate. I reckon buying that steel security door would tick all the boxes. I reckon if I sold my cabinets I would get the money back for the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I was considering something similar. My cabinet is in a big walk in clockroom cupboard, so I did contemplate just lining the inside of the cupboard with steel and fitting a secure steel door on it. But, I dont think i`ll be living at this house for more than 5 years, so it might just be a waste of time & effort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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