Wriggler Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Are some guns a bit more punchy than others or is it just down to inconsistant mounting? I only ask as first time out with a new gun I have a nice mark on my shoulder, not quite a bruise but a bit on the sore side. I was using white gold in 28g 7.5, I usually shoot the same in Kent velocity. I have an old o/u that I shoot with occasionally and have never been marked but I have for the last few months been shooting a semi auto so maybe I developed a bad habit or two from this and with reduced recoil never noticed. The semi auto was too short in the stock and the new gun is the same length as the older o/u just a little higher on the comb, only a few mm though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 is your new gun lighter than your old o/u? that could be your problem. my o/u is heavy'ish,it doesn't mark my shoulder even if i'm shooting in a vest,but it did use to knock my cheek (this is down to me not mounting the gun right),my sbs is light but doesn't knock my shoulder either,although it does somehow start to bruise or cut my trigger or middle finger sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 I tried for a few, well, many years to get away with shooting right handed shotguns off the left shoulder. You can learn to shoot them but it was not until I had a little sxs fitted that I realised what I had been putting up with for years. You right handers are spoilt for choice! If a gun does not fit you it can and will let you know. atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Are some guns a bit more punchy than others or is it just down to inconsistant mounting? I only ask as first time out with a new gun I have a nice mark on my shoulder, not quite a bruise but a bit on the sore side. I was using white gold in 28g 7.5, I usually shoot the same in Kent velocity. I have an old o/u that I shoot with occasionally and have never been marked but I have for the last few months been shooting a semi auto so maybe I developed a bad habit or two from this and with reduced recoil never noticed. The semi auto was too short in the stock and the new gun is the same length as the older o/u just a little higher on the comb, only a few mm though. there certainly are. weight, stock design, cones and choke all have a bearing. though bad mounting will make things worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 there certainly are. weight, stock design, cones and choke all have a bearing. though bad mounting will make things worse Bad mounting and fit are the usual problems but some guns do buck more than others, a mates got a little single barrelled 12gauge with a hammer action and you know you've fired it when putting 32gr carts down the tube, on the other hand an auto will have alot less recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Poor mount I have had cracking bruises....... Mis mount pull the trigger and it hurts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wriggler Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 It's a lighter gun but I had the same model a couple of years ago and that shot fine after a couple of adjustments. I'll practice on my mounting technique :blink: and try some lighter carts. Cheers for the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Yes guns do vary, lighter guns kick more but there are other differences, some flip more for example. Semi's have less recoil. If your feeling it then it's either a bad or inconsistent mount, or a bad fit. The stock of the gun should fit in your shoulder properly, if the entire butt-pad isn't in your shoulder (i.e the top or bottom edge digging in leaving the other part not touching) then that's bad fit and will cause discomfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 weight has a lot to do with felt recoil, i remember firing a 2oz AAA express cartrige through my tightly choked single baikal, it felt as though my brains were going to run out my nose. at the time i had a spanish side by side that had 'solway magnum' stamped on it, it was a heavy gun with 32" barrels and tight chokes and i could fire those heavy 2oz loads through that gun fine, admittedly its not a combination you would fire all day in a t-shirt and shooting vest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Yes guns do vary, lighter guns kick more but there are other differences, some flip more for example. Semi's have less recoil. If your feeling it then it's either a bad or inconsistent mount, or a bad fit. The stock of the gun should fit in your shoulder properly, if the entire butt-pad isn't in your shoulder (i.e the top or bottom edge digging in leaving the other part not touching) then that's bad fit and will cause discomfort. My side by side fits very well, and my mount is good and consistant. However, with standard (28g) clay loads it really bashes me about. The combination of your personal build, type of gun you're using and the cartridges being fired can also have an effect on how punchy you percieve a gun to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 It's weight and gun fit combined a gun that is to short a lop or high in the comb will fell like it kicks more. But a 5 1/2 llbs 12 bore firing a 36g load will kick if it fits it will feel less but physics will not change light guns don't have enough weight to soak up recoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 For me it was overwhelmingly mount. I put some 32gm Gamebore 'diamond' jobbies through my Falconet (v light) t'other day wearing just a t shirt and didn't register the kick at all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Put a 32gr cartridge through something like an AYA number 2, thats punchy !!. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Put a 32gr cartridge through something like an AYA number 2, thats punchy !!. A I shoot 32 gr suprem game through my fitted AYA no 2 for 7 driven days last season it was fine but is fitted to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wriggler Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I went out today and got one of the instructors at the ground to have a quick look at my gun fit. Half an hour later and with a nice bit of adaptation to my comb, about 5mm in height added I went out and shot. I hit an extra 20 clays over last time out and felt a lot better, I was using 21g carts to lessen recoil as well. I still felt the kick off the 28g carts, I had to try a couple just to check, but overall it was a lot better experience. I could do with a little more length on the LOP but I'll be able to get that with a recoil pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Punchy guns Is there such a thing? Yes, they are called Benelli's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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