Terror threat(back by popular demand)

[JRDS]

Is the latest alleged plot propoganda to shore up the flagging support for Phoney's support of Bush and his foreign policy. Would we put anyhing past this lot, I think not.

[Lancs Lad]

Is the latest alleged plot propoganda to shore up the flagging support for Phoney's support of Bush and his foreign policy. Would we puit anyhing past this lot, I think not.

 

Dont think it is a "put up" job. its almost that time when the old *** ***** will like to make another "announcement" and have a good killing spree....its not far off the 5 year anniversary of 9.11.

 

I have to fly to the states every year with work and am just happy to land each time... It wont be long now before something else kicks off.

 

Support the lads that are over in those foreign places, but as for the two ronnies, MR bush and MR Blair please exit stage left...

Edited August 11, 2006 by henry d

[JRDS]

Wouldn't be suprised if there are no charges, this lot will stop at nothing for a bit of good PR.

[lurcherboy]

We have the israeli/lebanon situation to thank for this.

 

Thanks to b liar & bush

 

 

 

 

LB

[Mungler]

Makes you wonder where / when any of it will end?

 

Mind you, 20 years ago and people would have said that peace in NI was not achievable - both sides had their equal share of immovable hardline extremists and a couple of centuries of bad blood. However, peace did break out - I think it was the Enniskillen bomb that was the turning point when a whole load of Joe Public and kids got wiped out and then 99% of NI turned round and said right that's enough. Now of course all the para military groups seem to have fallen into organised crime - perhaps they have gone a bit more "white collar" in their thuggery.

 

In the middle east the hatred runs deeper and they haven't grown tired of trying to kill eachother. A very nasty mix of no education, religious extremism and being orphaned means a good supply of suicide bombers for the next 20 years or so.

 

Looking at the wider picture (purely because as a matter of logistics the Lebanese are just not going to get the better of the Israeli army) the big dust up will come with Iran and the whole nuclear debate. Bizarre that the West would want to burn all it's good will for spats in Iraq and Afghanistan when the real "threat" is from Iran. Also, the more Israel knocks its neighbours around the more likely Pakistan, India and Egyptian Muslims will mobilise - what if a large Muslim based country with nuclear capability fairly and democratically voted in an extremist government...

[the last engineer]

Makes you wonder where / when any of it will end?

 

(purely because as a matter of logistics the Lebanese are just not going to get the better of the Israeli army) the big dust up will come with Iran and the whole nuclear debate. Bizarre that the West would want to burn all it's good will for spats in Iraq and Afghanistan when the real "threat" is from Iran. Also, the more Israel knocks its neighbours around the more likely Pakistan, India and Egyptian Muslims will mobilise - what if a large Muslim based country with nuclear capability fairly and democratically voted in an extremist government...

 

 

do you not think thats why Israel is getting ****** with Iran ??

 

 

Martin

[Mungler]

Makes you wonder where / when any of it will end?

 

(purely because as a matter of logistics the Lebanese are just not going to get the better of the Israeli army) the big dust up will come with Iran and the whole nuclear debate. Bizarre that the West would want to burn all it's good will for spats in Iraq and Afghanistan when the real "threat" is from Iran. Also, the more Israel knocks its neighbours around the more likely Pakistan, India and Egyptian Muslims will mobilise - what if a large Muslim based country with nuclear capability fairly and democratically voted in an extremist government...

 

 

do you not think thats why Israel is getting ****** with Iran ??

 

 

Martin

 

 

Oh yes, Iran is a real problem and adding Iran to the list of Iraq, Afghanistan and Lebanon will not further endeer the West to the middle East. However, I reckon there is every chance that Pakistan, India or Egypt could go radical and those countries already have a nuclear capability.

 

I think that a large country like the US with such a large army to keep busy, should actually be afforded a certain number of "invasion cards" each year. It should be expected that it will be called upon to keep the peace in a few crappy south amercian countries and maybe throw it's weight around a little in the middle east to keep them in check. However, the US has wasted its invasion card quota on Afghanistan and Iraq - two countries that were begging to be "sorted out" and have their crappy tyranical regimes replaced but two countries that really posed no threat to the West or the Western way of life - the sanctions were doing very well at keeping those countries that wanted to stay in the dark ages, well erm, in the dark ages. However, the spats with Afghanistan and Iraq have not gone to plan and all Western goodwill in the middle east has been expended. Tacking on Iran (and then perhaps Syria) to the invasion list, well that's gonna hack a whole load more of the middle east off and cost us a bundle.

[lurcherboy]

It is lucky for us that we have 'team america' to police the world isn't it

 

30 or so years ago, when we didn't have immediate media coverage, we would not have concerned ourselves with what the (doing this on my own back now) *******, *******, ******* *****, ***** ***** **** done to each other. Now that we appear to back t/am, rightly or wrongly, we are in the crosshairs and will suffer the consequences. The lastest alerts are a result of us sitting back on the sidelines and allowing the decimation of the Lebanese infrastructure and bombing of residential areas with impunity by the Israelis. They know what they are doing and firmly believe they are right, after all, thats how you eradicate terrorists isn't it?

 

It reminds me of when parliament introduced internment. It was the biggest possible recruitment advert for the IRA. I was living in the south then and the response was by one and all to rally at arms and be dammed, lets stop the occupation!!!!

 

All that resulted from that was innocent lives, mainly, being wasted.

 

Many years later, the UK goverment started negotiations with the IRA. Eventually (it aint over just yet) Talks were started and progress is being made.

 

The facts are this, terrorism works in the long run, always has, always will. Hezbullah will grow stronger with every laser guided american missile that kills a child, demolishes a house or blows up a ambulance. Their offspring will remember and so will their offspring, and so it goes on and on.

 

Israel holds back their water, electrity, movements, money and wonders why there is unrest.

 

We are making the terrorists, they have no options and no hope left, so what have they got to loose?

 

Even those born here are now having a pop!

 

 

LB

 

 

Wont see this one tomorrow

[kdubya]

Wouldn't be suprised if there are no charges, this lot will stop at nothing for a bit of good PR.

 

So let me get this straight, you reckon its a conspiricy (like the twin towers was a put up job or we never went to the moon) if so can I ask you a straight question? what would you say if the govt had not acted and as isl indicated at least 6 planes fell out of the sky on weds coming,

answer no doubht would be WHY didnt we act

 

the covt really cant win in these situations, we blame blair, we blame labour policy, we blame Israel, (now was it not hizbolllah that started the latest spat?) so get real blame the real culprits ie the radicals, and by that I dont mean a race so please dont have the temerity to accuse me of being racist? as by radicals I mean those MUSLIMS ( its a belief not a culture or race) who would serve shia law to the point we would all be exterminated for being "non believers"

 

Well its time to wake up and smell the coffee, this little lot started with the overthrow of the shah of Iran and the onset of seed sowing of radicallism throughout the middle east, and the monetary support iran has given to fundamentalist groups like the taliban, hammas, hizbollah,etc and aiding with the supply of arms these groups to effectively take over the political bent of these countries, so much so we have situations were teachers are hauled from classes and shot in front of pupils, 16 year old girls hung by morality police, etc etc, and the countries govt like those in lebanon are powerless to act, it has been seen coming to some degree but the bit that has caught everyone out is the amount of homegrown funadamentalism, and of course the huge number of persons linked to Pakistan and the mad mullahs in this country,

 

worrying times already and further worry ahead, with no easy answer (unless we become and by we I mean the yanks become so threatened they feel their way of life will change dramatically)

then the only solution is to "wipe" every thing east of Cyprus and not stop till we hit the yellow sea. a view I wholeheartedly support

cheers KW

l

[henry d]

Remember play nice or it `s paddled botty`s all round

[Mungler]

Ah religious fundamentalism the hollow belief that one particular religion is more right and true than another. You have the nutters in the states that won't allow evolution to be taught in schools and in the middle east you have... well erm we know how that one plays out.

 

Without wishing to get a Fatwah placed on head, did anyone see the series by Prof Richard Dawkins? Absolutely brilliant - an Oxford Prof, scientist and biologist who genuinely thought that because of the scientific leeps and bounds being made in the 1960's by the year 2000 the whole world would have abandoned religion and would be working as one to look to the stars for the real meaning of life.

 

The world needs more education and less religion.

[JRDS]

Wouldn't be suprised if there are no charges, this lot will stop at nothing for a bit of good PR.

 

So let me get this straight, you reckon its a conspiricy (like the twin towers was a put up job or we never went to the moon) if so can I ask you a straight question? what would you say if the govt had not acted and as isl indicated at least 6 planes fell out of the sky on weds coming,

answer no doubht would be WHY didnt we act

 

Lets see if anyone is convicted, I hope I am wrong but I would not trust this government with anything and would not put it past them to do anything for some positive PR to justify their support of the Dictator in charge of the US.

[Mungler]

Following on from the monumental PR disaster that was Stockwell Tube and Forest Gate, I can't believe the security services would risk another botched job. Can you really imagine what the fall out would be? BTW I pay my taxes for education, health and civic services and the idea that anyone is going to get £1 million of tax payers money because the police put the wrong door in makes my blood boil.

 

Everyone is working to the assumption that the UK is in line for a terrorist attack and the nation is holding its breath. This is not good - the security services are under pressure for a result and the media wants a story. Perversely people would now actually welcome the news that 20 people have been caught whilst upto all manner of terrorist naughties rather than have no news. No news is no longer good news.

 

Finally, is this an appropriate moment for me to say yeah whatever, but your mum's a minger and your dad works at McDonalds?

[P03]

the only solution is to "wipe" every thing east of Cyprus and not stop till we hit the yellow sea. a view I wholeheartedly support

cheers KW

l

 

Not all Muslims are fundamentalist and trying to wipe out "everything east of Cyrpus" is just what Mr Bush would like best (as long as the oil was ok). The majority of Muslims, be they Iraqi, Iranian, Egyptian or Afghan are decent hardworking people just trying to live peaceful lives and feed their kids. And no I'm not a Muslim, I've just been there and have met them.

[henry d]

good posts ...... in the main

[kdubya]

the only solution is to "wipe" every thing east of Cyprus and not stop till we hit the yellow sea. a view I wholeheartedly support

cheers KW

l

 

Not all Muslims are fundamentalist and trying to wipe out "everything east of Cyrpus" is just what Mr Bush would like best (as long as the oil was ok). The majority of Muslims, be they Iraqi, Iranian, Egyptian or Afghan are decent hardworking people just trying to live peaceful lives and feed their kids. And no I'm not a Muslim, I've just been there and have met them.

 

problem is like it or not we are now in a situation where "playing fair" will not work, of course I appreciate that not all muslims are terrorists BUT how on earth do you fight an evil when that evil hides behind a veil of innocence?yet prescribes to a religion that like it or not allows no quarter to non believers, hence we have no alternative but to be distrusting of ALL, jeez look at the london bombers? how many of those that knew them openly stated "he was a good lad" he did not come accross as someone who would quite willingly blow himself and others up at the whim of a mullah or radical group,

IRAN is the seed IRAN is the sponser and now that iraq, afganistan, lebanon, syria, sudan, etc have openly supported terrorism albeit with the finance and armament provided from Iran we may have little or no choice but to act DRASTICALLY, I for one do not want my kids forever looking over their shoulder because we "thought" they were our friends and yes I to have been there met with them and worked with them and out of all the only one I ever kept in touch with and the bloke lives in lebanon! at that is a CHRISTIAN

the rest HATE us believe me

BEWARE THE BEAST THAT SLEEPS AT YOUR FEET

cheers KW

[digger]

if they are implicated in a plot to cause death on any scale then torture the scum.guilt by association means some cowardly swear words know/knew what was or is planned.sod their human rights and cherie blairs bleeding heart liberals,give them shocks,kneecap them whatever it takes then once the info is gained kill them.then arrest the ones with traces of explosives on their hands and shoot them.

far fetched ? how many countries that kiss **** have terrorist problems ?

[blackthorn]

if they are implicated in a plot to cause death on any scale then torture the scum.guilt by association means some cowardly swear words know/knew what was or is planned.sod their human rights and cherie blairs bleeding heart liberals,give them shocks,kneecap them whatever it takes then once the info is gained kill them.then arrest the ones with traces of explosives on their hands and shoot them.

far fetched ? how many countries that kiss **** have terrorist problems ?

digger just make sure you castrate them first, there not much good if the tackle don't work, there's 100 virgins left lacking

[the lizard]

Ah religious fundamentalism the hollow belief that one particular religion is more right and true than another. You have the nutters in the states that won't allow evolution to be taught in schools and in the middle east you have... well erm we know how that one plays out.

 

Without wishing to get a Fatwah placed on head, did anyone see the series by Prof Richard Dawkins? Absolutely brilliant - an Oxford Prof, scientist and biologist who genuinely thought that because of the scientific leeps and bounds being made in the 1960's by the year 2000 the whole world would have abandoned religion and would be working as one to look to the stars for the real meaning of life.

 

The world needs more education and less religion.

 

 

Hear, hear Mungler.

Dawkins for President.

 

 

the Lizard

[pin]

Stuff dawkins, Hicks for el presidente

[the lizard]

Stuff dawkins, Hicks for el presidente

 

 

 

Hicks ?

which "Hicks" ?

 

 

the Lizard.

 

P.S. Pin, how do you make those Kool avatars ?

You gotta tell me m8...... thanks.

[Mungler]

Ah, that would be the late great Bill Hicks.

 

"The Rocket Scientists" sketch was fantastic - about the Judas Priest fans that killed themselves after spending 3 solid days and nights listening to Judas Priest records backwards.

 

"**** em, did we lose a cure for cancer or some potential NASA scientists? No we lost more gas station attendants".