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hello does anyone on this forum use a single shot rifle . if so what make and your opinion of them thanks pete

 

 

I use a single shot .22H. It's a Thompson Centre TCR 87 from the States which in profile is more like a shotgun or kipplauf rifle than the usual, more modern TC rifle. With a bit of practice I have found I can shoot it quite quickly. I open the rifle with the top lever, palm the used brass with my right hand and take a fresh round from the 'wristoleer' on my left wrist. I like this rifle and it can be very accurate, but originally I wanted a Ruger Number 1 single shot with the falling block action (unable to find one anywhere) as I once had a FB .22LR rifle by Dan'l Fraser which I should never have sold. Nevertheless, I like the TCR. Pity I can't get a new barrel in .17H to try out!

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I use a single shot .22H. It's a Thompson Centre TCR 87 from the States which in profile is more like a shotgun or kipplauf rifle than the usual, more modern TC rifle. With a bit of practice I have found I can shoot it quite quickly. I open the rifle with the top lever, palm the used brass with my right hand and take a fresh round from the 'wristoleer' on my left wrist. I like this rifle and it can be very accurate, but originally I wanted a Ruger Number 1 single shot with the falling block action (unable to find one anywhere) as I once had a FB .22LR rifle by Dan'l Fraser which I should never have sold. Nevertheless, I like the TCR. Pity I can't get a new barrel in .17H to try out!

 

my own long term plan is to build a Hornet on a falling block action, fully moderated for NV. The Thomson centre would be my second choice. I believe the ruger no.1 has a few too many issues at times and getting a good no.1 can be down to luck

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I've always had lots of luck - invariably all bad. That is, until I got my Ruger #1 in 22 Hornet. :yes: It doesn't take much practice to speed up the reloading but I did shoot a Greener GP so was half way there to start with.

 

Mind you, the luck was never going to last. Who's the idiot that bought a load of Hornady 45gn 'Hornet' bullets to use in his Weihrauch and his mate's Anschutz Hornets only to find that you cannot get them to fit COL wise into the magazine? :angry:

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I've always had lots of luck - invariably all bad. That is, until I got my Ruger #1 in 22 Hornet. :yes: It doesn't take much practice to speed up the reloading but I did shoot a Greener GP so was half way there to start with.

 

Mind you, the luck was never going to last. Who's the idiot that bought a load of Hornady 45gn 'Hornet' bullets to use in his Weihrauch and his mate's Anschutz Hornets only to find that you cannot get them to fit COL wise into the magazine? :angry:

 

Serious? they are out of SAMMI spec yet listed "Hornet" ? Have you considered a meplat trim?

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Have you considered a meplat trim?

 

No, not fussed. Story is, finally weaned mate of the 35 Vs for fox and he's well pleased with the Speer. We just happened across these but with no local stock to check, just ordered some to try. I'm pretty sure that they won't go in the Weihrauch, may just in the Anschutz but even then with no room for any seating depth adjustment so it's simply not worth the hastle. I know you've seen the other thread about the 45/50gn so hopefully I can poop these off effectively and once they've gone, they've gone.

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I shoot an encore and have both a 17 hornet and a 223 barrel for it. I like it very much. Not having a 4" receiver means I can use a 'normal' length barrel and still have a compact rig or use a long-ish barrel but not feel that long. My hornet barrel is only 18" or so, but is super compact. My 223 barrel is 24" but doesn't feel as long as my 22LR (bolt gun) with an 18" barrel.

 

They are great if you are shooting offhand or braced against a tree. Shooting off a bipod is a little trickier with a break action as you have to unset and reset the gun back into place. It isn't a setup for rapid fire shooting.

 

All in all, I really like mine and will certainly be keeping it.

 

Thanks,

Rick

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The encore/contender doesn't make a lot of sense in this country. The main advantage of the system is being able to have a new barrel on a whim, i.e. it is relatively inexpensive to add a new cartridge/capability to your set compared to buying an entire new boltgun. Also, it makes it easier to shoot wildcat cartridges. Given the 'good reason' required for a new caertridge here, those advantages go away. Encores are expensive to import, so there is no cost advantage. And at the end of the day, you only have one shot. So i wouldn't start an encore system here. That said, i already had it and brought it over with me.

 

For a 243, i would just go bolt gun.

 

Thanks

Rick

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The encore/contender doesn't make a lot of sense in this country. The main advantage of the system is being able to have a new barrel on a whim, i.e. it is relatively inexpensive to add a new cartridge/capability to your set compared to buying an entire new boltgun. Also, it makes it easier to shoot wildcat cartridges. Given the 'good reason' required for a new caertridge here, those advantages go away. Encores are expensive to import, so there is no cost advantage. And at the end of the day, you only have one shot. So i wouldn't start an encore system here. That said, i already had it and brought it over with me.

 

For a 243, i would just go bolt gun.

 

Thanks

Rick

 

I can see the point your making. I see the advantage in not flinging your brass off into the vegitation and potential for full moderation while retaining a compact OA length. Having but one bullet also makes you think before you take the shot. Extra barrels in different calibres aint too bad a thing actually, despite the need for "good reason" for each you could find it easier to keep total numbers down of actual built firearms. It quite well known you hit problems on the magic no.7 in most areas

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Yes, if your shooting situations are always one shot at a time and dropping empties is a concern/issue then a single shot does help with that.

 

I guess it would depend on your individual force when it comes to built guns vs extra barrels, but I would suspect that if you had 1 frame and 10 barrels they would start wanting extra security, even though 9 of those barrels are useless.

 

The other complication I didn't mention above (I was typing on the ipad) is that there aren't many TC barrels in this country and I don't know of any custom manufacturers. So you're stuck importing a TC or Bergara factory barrel, which means being limited to the standard factory cartridges.

 

That said, I've always had a hankering for a 9.3 x 74R and the encore would be a cool and cheap choice to put it on. For a bear or boar thumper I can imagine it really putting the wood to one.

 

Thanks

Rick

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Yes, if your shooting situations are always one shot at a time and dropping empties is a concern/issue then a single shot does help with that.

 

I guess it would depend on your individual force when it comes to built guns vs extra barrels, but I would suspect that if you had 1 frame and 10 barrels they would start wanting extra security, even though 9 of those barrels are useless.

 

The other complication I didn't mention above (I was typing on the ipad) is that there aren't many TC barrels in this country and I don't know of any custom manufacturers. So you're stuck importing a TC or Bergara factory barrel, which means being limited to the standard factory cartridges.

 

That said, I've always had a hankering for a 9.3 x 74R and the encore would be a cool and cheap choice to put it on. For a bear or boar thumper I can imagine it really putting the wood to one.

 

Thanks

Rick

 

yes with our postcode lottery, the fact is a thief would only have one rifle with a choice of calibres- rather than enough guns to equip a small army.

 

We can always re-cut chambers from std (as long as you pay for any broken reamers) :lol:

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just noticed hornet6 has a pfeifer i would be interested what it is like and what he uses it for being its 6mm ppc thanks pete

 

So why not ask on the thread you found it on :lol:

 

I love it, easy to carry, accurate with every load I have tried so far.

Well made and a very good trigger, although may be a little light for some.

Loading for 6mm ppc is a commitment though, nobody makes ready made ammo, nobody makes brass.

I use Lapua 220 Russian brass, you need to fire-form in, neck turn it to suit the chamber, and then start working up a load.

Mine is passed for fox, muntjack and CWD, for some reason rabbits have not been included, and over sight I will address at some point.

With 80 or 85 grain bullets it will make the minimum power for all deer in England and Wales, but not sure about Scotland as they require 100 grain bullets which probably won't work with the 1 in 12 twist.

As a comparison with the heavier bullets it loses out about 100 to 150 fps to a .243.

 

Neil. :)

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Have you ever thought about a combi gun? Apart from the matter of slow reloads I love mine, and it has a 12g barrel for the days you spot something in the trees or flying by.

 

I took my 7-08 Tikka to my deer permission this week instead of the combi and guess what... I spotted the first squirrel in over six weeks and couldn't do a thing about it! :oops::rolleyes:

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All my rifles except a AMT 22LR semi are single shot and NON ejectors. I shoot 6PPC, 20BR and 17AH. The 17 is a CZ with a single shot conversion.

 

Benefits, lack of action flex on firing, means better accuracy, my PPC and BR are full customs, last time out at Bisley they were both shooting low .3s, the PPC did that in the hands of my novice daughter.

 

Drawback, lack of rapid follow up shot if needed. In 10 years of using single shots at foxes etc I can count the number of follow up opportunities and shots lost because of it at 2. One a couple of weeks ago was a clean miss, the other I suspect I broke his spine shooting from well above at about 200 yards, think it got into a large drain pipe under a gateway maybe 20 yards away. I can get a second aimed shot away in about 8 seconds.

 

Overall, very very rare that you will get a second go at something even with a mag feed, I have shot 3 foxes including a miss in under 60 seconds with no issues. Knowing you donthave a second shot makes you concentrate all the more on getting your only shot perfect.

 

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