Scot The Sniper Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) hi guys just bought this reloading powder for to try in my .223 what grain should i start from and not excceed and what have you tried with this powder and it has worked for you in your .223 mine is a savage .223 also im using a 55gr v max head .224 Edited July 30, 2012 by Scot The Sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Yeaah. did a lot of testing with allsorts. Sierra 55bthp #1390 hot take down everytime. Win70 lightweight 1 in 12 Edited July 30, 2012 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 hi guys just bought this reloading powder for to try in my .223 what grain should i start from and not excceed and what have you tried with this powder and it has worked for you in your .223 mine is a savage .223 also im using a 55gr v max head .224 it wouldn't be my first choice co your gonna end up with a compressed load i recon. Its a good choice in .243 with light bullets though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Not a lot of leeway with H4895 in .223 with a 55gr, have a look on here and you will see the recommended loads, http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Must say I found Reloader 7 to be pretty good in 223 with a 55 grn bullet, although Varget worked very well as well. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 at a guess from Hogdon between 25 and 26 grains and it shouldn't be compressed, I can load 26.5 grains of varget in Norma cases without compression whereas lapua 26 seems to fill them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why should it not be compressed? I ask as many of my loads have been compressed charges for years! My 110gr v-max load in 308 is 50grn of H4895 and it fills the case to the top of the neck! 3100fps from a 20" tube and no excessive pressure. Why no compression? Ta. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapperdan Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Why no compression ? lots of my loads are compressed ! 1 of my my 7mm.08 loads nearly has a full case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot The Sniper Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 ok guys thx for the info also as above with a 50gr v max head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 The load that I have developed fills the case to about 2 mm down from the case mouth so when that tip goes in to seat the propelant is definatey compressed. The load is hot but is very stable re fps 3450 over chrono and bullet strike point( loads from powder manufacturers have been reduced in recent years from what they used to be due to liability worries). I zero at 170 and thus it will take from the muzzle out to 220 without any exessive hold over. Everything that this load has been used for it has taken out the target first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Why should it not be compressed? I ask as many of my loads have been compressed charges for years! My 110gr v-max load in 308 is 50grn of H4895 and it fills the case to the top of the neck! 3100fps from a 20" tube and no excessive pressure. Why no compression? Ta. U. There is nothing realy bad about a slightly compressed load. Indeed it might be good for a new reloader to be unable to get too much in. there is nothing realy good about it either as it limits potential to go beyond that limit due to fill. In the ideal world we should look for a case to fill up to behind were the bullet seats without undue compression. i certainly preffer compressed to underfilled Sorry if my earlier wording created any confusion, i have had some good compressed loads myself (7-08, .308 in particular)- just wouldn't generally choose a powder that was gonna require it as a first choice 3100 from such a bullet seems a little on the low side BTW? never used as such but if your going so light then why not get it up there - i would have thought another 200fps was very possible with other powder? Perhaps this explains my mention of "limiting possibilities" a little better? Edited August 1, 2012 by kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 There is nothing realy bad about a slightly compressed load. Indeed it might be good for a new reloader to be unable to get too much in. there is nothing realy good about it either as it limits potential to go beyond that limit due to fill. In the ideal world we should look for a case to fill up to behind were the bullet seats without undue compression. i certainly preffer compressed to underfilled Sorry if my earlier wording created any confusion, i have had some good compressed loads myself (7-08, .308 in particular)- just wouldn't generally choose a powder that was gonna require it as a first choice 3100 from such a bullet seems a little on the low side BTW? never used as such but if your going so light then why not get it up there - i would have thought another 200fps was very possible with other powder? Perhaps this explains my mention of "limiting possibilities" a little better? Thanks for the reply. This is why I have prefered slowish powders over the years, like you imply, a case can not be overfilled with a too fast a powder by mistake and cause a dagerous situation. 3100fps is plenty for me ta, does the job. Primer flattened out 'nuff for me U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Thanks for the reply. This is why I have prefered slowish powders over the years, like you imply, a case can not be overfilled with a too fast a powder by mistake and cause a dagerous situation. 3100fps is plenty for me ta, does the job. Primer flattened out 'nuff for me U. pressure and speed are not always linked that directly, its were and when the pressure occurs. you might get more speed with less pressure with a different powder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 pressure and speed are not always linked that directly, its were and when the pressure occurs. you might get more speed with less pressure with a different powder Yeah,know U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 my .223 a-bolt likes, winchester brass, winchester primers, 24gr of H4895 and 52gr hornady a-max. i know that is a grain under the starting load and i cant remember how ended up with that but it seems to work well in my rifle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiLisCer Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 ok guys thx for the info also as above with a 50gr v max head Scot, Jeff has given you the link that you need above to the Hodgdon website - where you will find everything you need - although I do suggest you buy a manual. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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