Baldrick Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Nope, I bet a lot of London's urban foxes are actively fed proper food by pathetic individuals that think they're harmless and needy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^mimic^ Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 pathetic individuals that think they're harmless and needy. Funny I used to think of badgers like that, right up till the day I Accidentally walked into their set while out with my dog, The Bloody things surrounded us and tried having him while I was there, I had quickly to escort him back to the car out of dangers way. Those poxy things should have their protected status Revoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 pathetic individuals that think they're harmless and needy. Those poxy things should have their protected status Revoked. Hear! Hear! You should see what they do to chickens. It's a fair bet that a fair few on the roads have been dumped and met their end in a different way. If they had their protective status revoked I would be out lamping them tomorrow night. FM (the would be badger basher ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 when we stay at my friends sheep farm in northumberland, im really careful where i let the dogs run about in the dark up there. i wouldnt like one of my lot to meet one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Im surprised you let them out in the dark they are so black you cannot see them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 no, but 4 newfoundlands racing around arent exactly quiet. and you feel the drool as their head swipes you as they pass. believe me, you know they are there despite it being dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 I can believe that dont forget ive seen the big **** and they are great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I was speaking to this guy at my mates house and he used to have a black lab called ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 when we stay at my friends sheep farm in northumberland, im really careful where i let the dogs run about in the dark up there. i wouldnt like one of my lot to meet one. Are these particlarly vicious sheep? But seriously, have they had instances of sheep deaths found lodged half way up a tree? FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darebear Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 not half way up a tree as far as im aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 No bodies have been found I don't think, but then how often do you see a dead deer in the woods? Not very often thats how often! Infact, I've never seen a dead deer, fox or badger other than roadkill. ...........as it happens quite often(apart from badger,as we don`t have many here)I collect 5-10 roe skull a year and I even have a cat skull. the badgers are on there way as i see about 10 every night. i hear they carry tb and some farmer are calling for a cull cant wait !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 There has been a number of posts in this thread refering to cougars, or mountainlions, or puma, or whatever other name you wish to give them, eating their prey up in trees, and looking for tracks. First off cougars do not take their prey up into the trees to eat. Mountain lions cache large prey, dragging it up to 350 meters from the place of capture and burying it under leaves and debris. They return nightly to feed. As for tracks they are not some thing that you will see most times unless you are aware of what you are looking for. You seldom encounter a full track, occasionally in snow or very soft ground, as these cats have a tendancy to walk on their toes and not the heel or pad of the foot. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag-man Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Leopards eat 100% of their food in a tree, other cats like an individual lion (without the protection of a pride), will try to get their kill up a tree, away from the hyeana's, cheetah's lack the strength to get a kill up a tree, but will always eat the preys vitals first, heart, liver lungs, the meat that is richer in protein. As for the other cats like jaguars and pathers, I'm sure they are pretty close to a leopard, on the other hand, if a snow leopard had to try and find a tree to drag it's prey up, it would die of old age..... As for a leopards spoor, you will see the claw marks in the spoor, as the leopards cannot retract their claws like normal cats............ this is based on the african cats, I don't think there is much differance in nature and instinct between the leopard and a panther, and jaguar, which is pretty much the same kind of cat. The other cats, like your American one's are totally differant though, Lynx, puma cougar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 mag-man Our Native cats for Canada, the United States, Mexico, and South America consist of the Ocelot. Ocelot ....ranges from Arizona to N. Argentina, Cougar (mountain lion, puma,panther)...S. Canada to Patagonia, Lynx....Canadas Yukon to N. Central US, Bob Cat...S.Canada to S. Mexico, Jaguar...S. Mexico to S. South America, Jaguarundi....Arizona to N. Argentina. The Jaguar is the only Large Cat that we have that consistantly will take its kill to a tree to feed. The rest only take small game, eaten in one sitting , or cache their kills. Occasionally a Jagular is seen up in the S. States and there are studies going on now to see if they are using old migration routes into the US dessert regions as there has been evidence of a populace in the past. I have a friend that has ran all of these cats with hounds either for hunting or research and he claims that although the Jagular is very hard to locate because of the inaccessabilty of the terrain, it is the Ocelot that is the hardest to tree as it has the abitlity to loose the hounds most consistantly. I have only had the oppertunity to run the Cougar do to Hunting Regulations and travel distances, I am however looking forwar to running both Lynx and Bob Cats in the near future though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag-man Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 NTTF, thanks bud, do you see what I mean though that the leopards, panther and maybe the jaguar belong in the same group, same sub-species of cat, It makes sense to me now that the panther and jag do not have to tree feed, as they don't have the natural enimies they have to compete against like the leopard does, I always envisioned the panthers lurking in tree's..........unless I been watching too much jungle book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 NTTF, thanks bud, do you see what I mean though that the leopards, panther and maybe the jaguar belong in the same group, same sub-species of cat, Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag-man Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I have a friend that has ran all of these cats with hounds either for hunting or research and he claims that although the Jagular is very hard to locate because of the inaccessabilty of the terrain, it is the Ocelot that is the hardest to tree as it has the abitlity to loose the hounds most consistantly. I have only had the oppertunity to run the Cougar do to Hunting Regulations and travel distances, I am however looking forwar to running both Lynx and Bob Cats in the near future though . I remember blokes in the south used to hunt leopards with a breed called Boerboers, size and shape of a rotty, but looked more like a great dane, real nice dogs, they fed on any intruders, great family pets, but always hunted in large packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^mimic^ Posted September 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Holly **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 What happened to the rest of your post, Mimic? The plaster casts etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^mimic^ Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 What happened to the rest of your post, Mimic? The plaster casts etc? you'l all rip the **** out of me you wouldn't beleive me if i told you what i saw mate All i can say is I AM NOT GOING UP THERE ALONE! no frigging way. Im going to get more photos today and take a sample to the vets for an I'D im not risking a comment till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I know some of the comments on this thread are made in jest, but lets just get a few things clear. According to Google (I had to look it up, because I haven't ever seen a puma in the wild), a puma can weigh between 90 and 187 pounds and be up to 6ft long. Its my opinion that anyone attempting to kill such an animal with a rimfire rifle, or a 12 gauge shotgun with No6, or any other legal shot size, at any range, would be an idiot. One Idiot reporting for duty sah!!!!!!! 8 shot semi full of SG and a cage to take cover in if it all goes wrong that would do me Seriously though if I was out huinting and i stumbled on the big cat and it was to go on the offensive and If i have the choice of turn and run or stand and face when you KNOW damn well your gonna get taken down anyway then i would face it and take my chances Fix Bayonet and when the ammo runs out use the but as a club Just call me Mr Quartermain LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^mimic^ Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Out of pure curiosity and i know this may seem like a strange question but how much Poo does a 90 to 187 pound big cat do in one sitting? and is it black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Out of pure curiosity and i know this may seem like a strange question but how much Poo does a 90 to 187 pound big cat do in one sitting? and is it black? mimic, perhaps it was a bull that provided those droppings................just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^mimic^ Posted September 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Out of pure curiosity and i know this may seem like a strange question but how much Poo does a 90 to 187 pound big cat do in one sitting? and is it black? mimic, perhaps it was a bull that provided those droppings................just a thought. Thats one posibility, But hmm There is no Bulls/cows there, It sure as hell wasnt fox or badger, i dont think it could of been deer and it certainly wasnt rabbit the four piles to which i refer, are sort of unbroken pileups (like coiled snakes) black about 2kg each, There Big... There is NO WAY a dog could of done that not 8 kg worth, But its an intersting suggestion, I don't have pics of that yet but i should have them latter today if you hold for a moment i will upload the pics i snaped with the phone their not the best detail and the is larger than it looks maybe 4/5" across Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Whoooooooooooooooooosh !!!!! thats the sound of my comment flying over mimic's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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