walshie Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Think I may have two bacon genes....one smoked,one unsmoked! Same here! I have one sarnie, then another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I put them on a par with Jehovah's Witnesses and other stupid cults who can't think for themselves. I misread 'cults' on first glance and thought you were bang on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I misread 'cults' on first glance and thought you were bang on Perhaps it was just mis-typed... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I firmly believe that much vegetarianism and veganism stems from people having hangups and faddiness with food . A few have genuine ideological reasons and I respect their views more than the food averse bigots . In the West they have the luxury of being able to turn down whole food groups and then have the gall to try and coax the rest of us to pack it in . I bet that before they become veggies they would not even touch black pudding , liver , any kind of game , chicken other than breast , kippers , Stilton , pickles , seafood . I include the last 3 because faddy beggars usually turn their noses up at these too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 +1 Ha Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I firmly believe that much vegetarianism and veganism stems from people having hangups and faddiness with food . A few have genuine ideological reasons and I respect their views more than the food averse bigots . In the West they have the luxury of being able to turn down whole food groups and then have the gall to try and coax the rest of us to pack it in . One point I thought of: How could vegetarians and vegans survive using only plants native to Britain? Before we were able to introduce new species and ship fruit and veg from other countries, they could not survive. It is only fairly recently that vegetarian and vegan lifestyles even became possible over here. Before then, you ate meat or you died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 the day that meat is no more is the day i start my vegan diet ,wonder what they taste like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Perhaps it was just mis-typed... :lol: Done it before, lads. It always makes someone look twice. Even better if you're talking as it pulls in those that need their ears testing as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Done it before, lads. It always makes someone look twice. Even better if you're talking as it pulls in those that need their ears testing as well! Well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I used to do a bit of work with The Body Shop manufacturing arm. It always tickles me when they go on about not testing on animals. The thing is, they don't have to, because the ingredients they use are already registered as safe for use in cosmetics because...guess what...somebody else has already tested them on animals years ago. Still, as long as they didn't do it, thats OK! And, by the bye, Anita Roddick was in my opinion the most foul mouthed and verbally aggressive woman I have ever had the misfortune to meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 the day that meat is no more is the day i start my vegan diet ,wonder what they taste like very nutty and grassy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) I respect your views and beliefs Bedwards, and in an ideal world they are laudable but we know we do not live in an ideal world. You do not believe animals should be used in testing but are happy to use rapists, paedophiles and terrorists. I have no truck with these groups and would be happy to shoot them, but what happens if a convicted individual is suddenly found to be innocent?. What you are suggesting is a step toward the worst excesses of the last war. Would you refuse to let a family member be treated with a drug if it were tested on animals?. A simple yes or no will suffice. Your post gives me the impression your happy to shoot rapists, pedophiles and terrorists, but not to test chemicals/medicines/products on them! The point you make about them being innocent is very important, which is generally why I feel that something like killing/torturing someone for a serious crime might be appropriate (in severe cases), except that it's almost impossible to be able to guarantee they're guilty. History shows many innocent people to have suffered at the wrong end of the 'justice' system, hence it can't work properly. In answer to your question, I didn't say I would refuse to allow a family member to be treated with a drug tested on animals. What I said was that I don't believe that it is necessary. I'm not a scientist, but as I understand it the only real reason why animals are used for testing is that it works out cheaper than alternative methods. Edited August 31, 2012 by bedwards1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 If we were meant to be vegans - or rather herbivores to use a real word - we'd have the digestive systems of herbivores. We don't. We have the digestive systems of omnivores, because that's what we are. Man's evolutionary niche is the hunter-gatherer, an opportunist, not a flatulent leaf-eating ape. If the dungeree wearers want to save the world the best way would be to end all farming and force man to subsist only on want he can find. I should think about 95% of the Earth's human population would perish The veggies would have their garden of Eden but they wouldn't like it: no guitars to strum, no placards to wave and no-one to blame for all the things that don't suit them. They would not be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 (edited) You have to also remember that there are vast tracts of land in this country where sheep are productively grazed that would be totally unsuitable for arable farming. Deer in the Highlands are farmed commercially, despite the impression that the Estates give that they a wild resource. So one way or another thats Scotland laid to waste. Does the ban include fish? Oh well thats the fishing industry on the beach as well. Now the killer question. Alcohol is the product of a living organism, yeast. Are you thinking what I am thinking.................... Edited September 1, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If we were meant to be vegans - or rather herbivores to use a real word - we'd have the digestive systems of herbivores. We don't. We have the digestive systems of omnivores, because that's what we are. Man's evolutionary niche is the hunter-gatherer, an opportunist, not a flatulent leaf-eating ape. If the dungeree wearers want to save the world the best way would be to end all farming and force man to subsist only on want he can find. I should think about 95% of the Earth's human population would perish The veggies would have their garden of Eden but they wouldn't like it: no guitars to strum, no placards to wave and no-one to blame for all the things that don't suit them. They would not be happy. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 If we all turned vegan then all of the animals already in existence would be free to live out their lives and would multiply. Rapidly. Imagine how many sheep would be around if none of the lambs went for slaughter. The price of food would rocket because rats and mice would infest the warehouses, stores and mills. Pigeons would eat the crops like locusts and people would starve. To top it off I would have to have soya milk in my tea and that's just not on. There are so many ways this would effect us it's unreal. Harry If we all turned vegan then all of the animals already in existence would be free to live out their lives and would multiply. Really ? I dont know too many farmers who'd feed 'em if there was no profit. Would they just turn 'em loose ........ I'd like to think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 How can you tell if someone is a vegan? Don't worry. They'll soon tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 How can you tell if someone is a vegan? Don't worry. They'll soon tell you. Ain't that the truth. Trawling through the Animal Aid website and Facebook page it seems that a fair few of them keep cats and dogs, some even run rescue centres for abandoned animals. I was quite interested to know what they feed the animals they keep so did a bit of digging around the 'net. Yep, you've guessed it...they've actually devised a vegan diet for cats and dogs. You couldn't make it up. Not only do these people want to impose their lifestyle on us, but are quite happy to do the same on their own pets. Something which goes totally against the natural lifestyle/diet of the animals they claim to love and respect. I wonder what Brian May feeds all the foxes he 'saves'? Tofu and nut cutlets ain't gonna cut it with Charlie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reece Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Ain't that the truth. Trawling through the Animal Aid website and Facebook page it seems that a fair few of them keep cats and dogs, some even run rescue centres for abandoned animals. I was quite interested to know what they feed the animals they keep so did a bit of digging around the 'net. Yep, you've guessed it...they've actually devised a vegan diet for cats and dogs. You couldn't make it up. Not only do these people want to impose their lifestyle on us, but are quite happy to do the same on their own pets. Something which goes totally against the natural lifestyle/diet of the animals they claim to love and respect. I wonder what Brian May feeds all the foxes he 'saves'? Tofu and nut cutlets ain't gonna cut it with Charlie!! Do you have any links about the vegan diets for dogs and cats so we could have a look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Do you have any links about the vegan diets for dogs and cats so we could have a look? This is the link for the biggest UK supplier, Vegeco. http://www.vegeco.net/brands/ami.html There are plenty of others importing stuff from the US and Europe, a quick Google search will find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I took a ferret to the vets once and she asked if it got fruit and vegetables in its diet...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Now the killer question. Alcohol is the product of a living organism, yeast. Are you thinking what I am thinking.................... To be technically correct, isn't it the waste product of the yeast organism--in a word, ****! Enjoy your pint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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