Help please with an FWB 127 Sport

[Jmgrain]

Hi, can anyone help please, I have been offered a FWB 127 Sport that is identical to the one below, I have been told the stock is the "Old School" style.

The gun is in very good condition, the barrel and action could do with rebluing, I would do that myself.

It has a metal foresight and plastic rear sight, is it worth buying, is the stock one fitted from new. I can get it for £90

 

[RichardH]

The stock has been butchered

[Hamster]

£90 is nothing for a FWB127, just make sure the insides haven't been chavtuned.

[Jmgrain]

£90 is nothing for a FWB127, just make sure the insides haven't been chavtuned.

Hi, What's chavtuned, have you seen them with that stock.

The stock is identical to that one and instead of a butt pad it has...a chevron pattern in the end of the stock, I think I can see that on the one in the photo.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Jmgrain

[Rimfireboy]

It's a mark2 with the aluminium trigger. Lovely guns if they're in good nick. I thought they were much nicer than the ubiquitous hw80. Got to be one of the nicest break barrel sporting air rifles ever made.

[Hamster]

I meant just make sure it's a standard gun as the older air rifles from a certain era can be messed around with by chavs. You are always better off with one with standard innards rather than one force fed a square section spring etc. The FWB124/7 need a spring compressor to disassemble if I recall correctly so any amateur attempts are bound to be double horrid.

[Hamster]

It's a mark2 with the aluminium trigger. Lovely guns if they're in good nick. I thought they were much nicer than the ubiquitous hw80. Got to be one of the nicest break barrel sporting air rifles ever made.

 

Correct Rimfireboy, they were often more accurate than the 80 in unfettled form but people liked to mess and the HW80 is easier to work on.

[Jmgrain]

Hi, this one has the very plain looking stock, not like the one below.

[kent]

It came in many incarnations, that looks a bit rough and guns always look better in photos. You do need something to compress the spring and sears tended to wear and breeck lock-ups weakened with use and lack of preventative maintanance. I shot one for years and seriously wish i never sold it But i don't think i would be in a great rush to part with 90 for that particular gun as shown. 50 or so perhaps if mecanically sound (check the safety catch is fully functional- a common indicator of worn sears)

[pat g]

It's a mark2 with the aluminium trigger. Lovely guns if they're in good nick. I thought they were much nicer than the ubiquitous hw80. Got to be one of the nicest break barrel sporting air rifles ever made.

Absolutely agree 100%. I owned a mk2 and like you say probably the best break barrel spring gun ever produced. Better than some of the rubbish they are producing today

ATB,

Pat

[Rem223]

The stock has been butchered

Nonsense. It looks exactly like the FWB mk 2 I bought from Beeman thirty years ago. They offered the standard like that in the pic and the deluxe shown in a later pic with the Monte Carlo comb and butt pad. Given the guns age it looks to me like someone has really looked after it. The stock is a bit plain, but you wont get a better rifle for £90 it will probably need a new breech seal and a new spring, but provided it cocks smoothly it should be a good investment.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Rem223

[Jmgrain]

Nonsense. It looks exactly like the FWB mk 2 I bought from Beeman thirty years ago. They offered the standard like that in the pic and the deluxe shown in a later pic with the Monte Carlo comb and butt pad. Given the guns age it looks to me like someone has really looked after it. The stock is a bit plain, but you wont get a better rifle for £90 it will probably need a new breech seal and a new spring, but provided it cocks smoothly it should be a good investment.

Hi, so you are saying that it is a standard setup with the plain stock, that isn't the actual gun I am buying.

[bullet boy]

As long as the power is good and hasnt been tampered with-£90 for a good condition FWB i would rip his arm off!!Bargain!!

[bruno22rf]

For all those out there wearing rose tinted specs and declaring this the best break barrel-maybe you've forgotten the-HW80-95 or the Original 45,AA pro elite,Annie 335.......

[Hamster]

The HW80 came later and is too heavy compared to the FWB, the 95 came much later but agree is a better gun, the Original 45 has a very nasty and easily broken safety catch also heavier but a decent gun, Pro Elite is of course better but sold in small numbers and much dearer, 335 was also pretty much spent by the time the FWB came on the scene.

 

They all have their good and bad points, personally I think the FWB would have done much better had the factory pushed them hard like Weihrauch did. Also the Venom team had got hold of the HW80 and made it into a legend, with a few tweaks they could have done the same with the FWB.

[Full Pelt]

I'd buy it at £90. It may need a new spring and piston seal, worth it even so. A nice light well made medium power springer.

 

A common mistake with these is to fit a heavy square spring ; the gun starts to fire irregularly as the heavy gear begins to smash the piston head. If that's the case try and find a gunsmith who can lathe you a new one from self-lubricating ptfe

[Rimfireboy]

For all those out there wearing rose tinted specs and declaring this the best break barrel-maybe you've forgotten the-HW80-95 or the Original 45,AA pro elite,Annie 335.......

The hw95 and the AA pro elite weren't in the same era. The FWB was smoother and nicer finished and nicer to shoot than any of it's rivals at the time including weirauchs, anshutz 335's and bsf's. And far better than the British stuff of the time. The HW35 and 80's were a good air rifle, but like a lamp post compared to the feinwerkbau sport. The original 45 was twangy and handled horribly. I was there at the time, without specs, tinted or otherwise.

[bruno22rf]

Nobody said anything about era-the comment,in particular,that I responded to stated that (in the posters opinion) the FWB was the finest break barrel EVER.The FWB was famous for breaking scopes,as those of us who were there at the time should recall,as well as being a fine hunting rifle (the 124 being much better than the 127).During a 6 year spell of instructing the use of Airguns back in the 90's I tested just about every gun available (including the awfull sussex armoury offerings-wonder what became of them? ) and the Annie 335s outshot the majority of non custom guns every time-if the power was higher I'm sure it would have become an all time best seller.The 80 was popular with tuners because it was designed to produce 18ft/lb out of the box-even a quick fit fitter could tune the gun.

Edited September 11, 2012 by bruno22rf

[Davyo]

Hi, can anyone help please, I have been offered a FWB 127 Sport that is identical to the one below, I have been told the stock is the "Old School" style.

The gun is in very good condition, the barrel and action could do with rebluing, I would do that myself.

It has a metal foresight and plastic rear sight, is it worth buying, is the stock one fitted from new. I can get it for £90

 

Grab it mate they are as rare as rock horse ****.I had one 27 yrs ago, best airgun ever, if you dont buy it pm me for my details and pass them on

Dave

[Davyo]

Hi, this one has the very plain looking stock, not like the one below.

That the one i has 27 yrs ago, oh i want one again!

[Rimfireboy]

Nobody said anything about era-the comment,in particular,that I responded to stated that (in the posters opinion) the FWB was the finest break barrel EVER.The FWB was famous for breaking scopes,as those of us who were there at the time should recall,as well as being a fine hunting rifle (the 124 being much better than the 127).During a 6 year spell of instructing the use of Airguns back in the 90's I tested just about every gun available (including the awfull sussex armoury offerings-wonder what became of them? ) and the Annie 335s outshot the majority of non custom guns every time-if the power was higher I'm sure it would have become an all time best seller.The 80 was popular with tuners because it was designed to produce 18ft/lb out of the box-even a quick fit fitter could tune the gun.

if you dont like the feinwerkbau sport I think you're in the minority.

[cjm]

Have one in the cabinet wouldnt part with it.

[Jmgrain]

Hi, I still haven't got anywhere with this gun, I have established that it is an original Standard version of the 127 Sport in pretty good nick.

 

Please help in the questions of .....do I leave it as it is....do I redo the stock and oil it......do I fit a 127 Deluxe stock...do I re-blue the metal work.

 

What is the best thing to do with it, is it worth more as a Standard or a near Deluxe.

 

thanks John

Edited September 25, 2012 by Jmgrain

[Full Pelt]

Surely the value is immaterial if you enjoy using the gun ? If you wish to add value with a view to reselling it then costing any work is clearly important. Prices for these are fairly firm despite a generally staturated and falling market for secondhand springers.

[bruno22rf]

Firstly-aplogies for straying off topic previousley,If the gun was mine I would get it re-blued and fit the Delux stock,I would then protect it from moisture and store it away-in a few years time I can imagine prices soaring.