duke5339 Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hi has anyone got any load data for Gm3 special powder. 12g fibre 28g? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 G M 3 special is a slow powder not suitable for light loads Dipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke5339 Posted September 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hi Dipper, whats the min load, and what powder grain would you go with. I have 2kg to use up, so would not mind going to a 32g lead Thanks Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Hi Dipper, whats the min load, and what powder grain would you go with. I have 2kg to use up, so would not mind going to a 32g lead Thanks Marcus Used it with 32g myself its not been available for years i will try and find some data.I will get back to you if i can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I have data for GM3. 22grains with 28grams shot and cx2000 and guilandi vzero plastic wad in 70mm case. Not sure if GM3 'special' is any different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 I have data for GM3. 22grains with 28grams shot and cx2000 and guilandi vzero plastic wad in 70mm case. Not sure if GM3 'special' is any different Yes gm3 is a lot slower main use was 3inch magnum loads Dipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 12, 2012 Report Share Posted September 12, 2012 Yes gm3 is a lot slower main use was 3inch magnum loads Dipper Well all the claygame data I have suggests 24-32gram in 12g and up to 28gram in 20g, as does this http://www.nobelspor...48&FamigliaID=0 . Are you sure you're not thinking of another powder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well all the claygame data I have suggests 24-32gram in 12g and up to 28gram in 20g, as does this http://www.nobelspor...48&FamigliaID=0 . Are you sure you're not thinking of another powder? Hi Sitsinhedges Just found old catalogue 3rd edition 1992 clay game with load for gm3 special.win cap uniwad 1 5/8 oz 29gr powder 3,, case . Also shows chart for burning speeds of different powders gm3 special comes under slow burning powder magnum loads. standard gm3 was replaced with gm3 bd standing for black dot which comes under medium burn 1 1/8 1 1/4 Dipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peeshooter Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) As far as I am aware Peter Lawman is the sole supplier in Northampton. I USE IT FOR .44SP AND 45ACP IF HE HAS ANY HE SHOULD ALSO HAVE LOAD DATA SHEETS ! JUST MAY HELP YOU OUT I USE BLUE DOT FOR ALL MY WILDFOWL LOADING AND ITS IN MOST GUN SHOPS FOR RELOADING. PRE PISTOL BAN YOU COULD BUY IT IN 4POUND TUBS FOR AROUD £28. CHEAP BUT GOOD FOR PRACTICAL PISTOL RACE GUNS. HOPE YOU FIND SOME PAUL ESSEX Edited September 13, 2012 by peeshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad-blody Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) Definately a different powder as previously mentioned slow burning slightly more progressive than Nobel 82. Produced by SNIA before they were taken over by Vectan I believe. The square tin is Yellow and black with a cartridge shaped sticker with special in the middle. This powder dates from the late 70's / early 80's and on. In 1980 it was being advertised for £8.58 per Kilo, And yes you did read it properly. I have some data on it using cci 109 and /or winchester 209 primers from 11/8 up to 17/8. mostly using snia gt wads. I may be able to get you some of these I shall ask. I also have some 20 bore loadings for 3/4 and 7/8 with fibre wad if any use. Edited September 13, 2012 by Tad-blody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 As far as I am aware Peter Lawman is the sole supplier in Northampton. Good luck getting any.If it's plain old GM3 there are other suppliers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke5339 Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Thanks for all the help on this one, a very kind chap emailed me a scan of his old load data sheet, so should be fine now. And yes cci 109 win 209 primers. For 1 1/8 up to 1 7/8 load. Thanks again chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Good luck getting any.If it's plain old GM3 there are other suppliers. I got 2Kg of it about 2 months ago from him, ringing him on his mobile seems to be the only way to order anything. The GM3 he has is the new stuff as shown in the application chart link above. I use it for .44mag and 12g slug loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke5339 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Hi, i tried the data with good results today. it toot out a magpie with good effect 27 grains powder and 36g lead. the only thing i found was quite a bit of unburnt powder left in the barrel, so i am going to try 25grain powder to 32g lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Hi, i tried the data with good results today. it toot out a magpie with good effect 27 grains powder and 36g lead. the only thing i found was quite a bit of unburnt powder left in the barrel, so i am going to try 25grain powder to 32g lead. if 27 grain and 36gram load wasnt clean, the 25 grain and 32g load is going to be even worse. what was the data you got? did it come with a pressure? thats the key to clean loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke5339 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 3.5 Tons per square inch, if you pm me with an email, I can send u the data sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanky Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Did warn you not to look down the barrels !!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke5339 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Yes fella u did lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamekeeper-bob Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 hi does any body still load 12 bore shotgun shells. I have just brought a lee loader and wanting to load a gm3 powder, loading 12 gauge 28grms 1oz of shot,,,having difficulty finding the right bushing number on the lee loader, does any body have any suggestions .......bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 GM3 was never a powder that loaded more than 33 grams; never mind 36 It was always the choice of the clay shooter as gave decent pressure/speed and was really cheap Even Fiocchi in their Nova Bior only used it up to 33 grams if you have a batch dated 2014 or earlier you won't even be able to load 33 gr; batches from 06/2014 to date are back and even a tad slower: Proof test 2013: 12/70/16 CX2000 1,45 x 31.5 Gualandi V0 25 star crimped at 58mm - PMax: 769, 758, 775, 728 V0,75: 383, 384, 386, 373 I wouldn't want to know what happens if you add 4 more grams of lead....obviously the dirty barrel is proof of the load being overwhelming for the powder. Proof Test 2015: 12/70/16 CX2000 1,45 x 31.5 Gualandi SG 25 star crimped at 58mm PMax: 628, 669, 648 V0,75: 393, 394, 392 Much better but still not suitable for 36 grams If you want 36 go tecna, 800X, blue dot, A0 ... but deffo no GM3 Here the crude reality, story tellers and wizards (and there are few) will tell you you can load up to 40 gr as they did so LOL cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VULTURE Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Good luck getting any.If it's plain old GM3 there are other suppliers. Really,good job I bought a job lot.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Really,good job I bought a job lot.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 Yeah as in from Mr Lawman,as I said there are other suppliers though the cheap stuff in bulk drums are now difficult to find as the importer has stopped supplying it other than in pound tins. Luckily I also have a good stash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 can you see the batch numbers on the tins? I think with that GM3, produced by SNIA VISCOSA rather than NS/Explosia) you can still afford decent loads One staple was 12/70 Fiocchi 615 1,55 X 32 Gualandi SG #9-13; 1,55 x 32.5 Gualandi SG #9-5, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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