Bazooka Joe Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Still not sure about actually purchasing firearms out there but, as you say, it depends upon the state. Sorry just re-read my post; Should have said........ Talking to a employee in a local gun shop, he reckoned that in Nevada whilst on his hols, he HAS purchased a side arm, wears it for his holidays, then leaves it with the local sheriff till the next time he comes over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sorry just re-read my post; Should have said........ Just wears it out and about? If so, that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I know that lots has changed recently as the Americans are pretty paranoid about getting invaded by Arabs so have felt the need to get all stupid with their immigration and firearms laws. J. Arabs invading the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Arabs invading the US? Not literally. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxtond Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Some good points raised. I know it's wishful thinking but I still think in any of the organisations were willing to take it on it wouldn't hurt. Surely things like the fact we can have a handgun on fac for use in Ireland or IOM make the ban even more crazy. Also after being granted a .22lbp I can't help but think if I'm nuts enough go on a shooting spree then I'm also nuts enough to spend 15'mins with a hack saw to make my lbp concealable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Not literally. J. Metaphorically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavarianbrit Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Well it did cost me a packet to leave the UK (I decided to do it when the centrefire ban was anounced as I had lived 7 years in the USA, but it took me till 2002 to sell my house so that I had funds to leave) so I do blame Major/Blair bitterly for******? up my future lifes plans. But now I am settled in Bavaria Germany and it feels much better here as it still has the feeling that I remember from my first visit there in 1973 = not much excitement about shooters/hunters in general and sport shooters seem to be accepted here by most as just normal folks with a hobby. Amoks happen here also, now and again but in any country of 60+ million anywhere in the world there will be an awful event expected to be happening every 10 years or so, just look at the historical data to prove that. Arming the village bobby would maybe help the UK to better control radical islamic & other nutters on the loose. Laws will not change human psychology. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 (edited) Surely things like the fact we can have a handgun on fac for use in Ireland or IOM make the ban even more crazy Small correction you can have a handgun in ( N Ireland ) they have being banned in the ( Republic of Ireland.) Edited June 11, 2013 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 We have handguns over here in Ireland courtesy of Mo Mowlam, an MP for Labor I believe. Glad someone seen a bit of sense, unlike across the water. Regardless of where in the world it takes place, an injustice committed against the law abiding shooting fraternity is disheartening to say the least (From a shooters perspective of course). It does however look as if most pre-reclassification shooters have given up and do not wish to add their weight to the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincs1963 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 It's not quite as simple as that though. I never signed it. Not because I'm lazy or inconsiderate (and I used to shoot pistols) but because I'm a realist. Handguns aren't coming back, get used to it. You can run as many petitions as you like, but the simple fact is there's no votes in it for any party, the police would be against it and the general public won't accept it. Even if the e-petition made it to 100,000 and the issue was debated in parliament nothing would change. Do you honestly believe that the major shooting organisations haven't at some point mooted the idea whilst lobbying ministers? I'd be very surprised if they hadn't, and I'd wager a guess that they'd have been told not to waste their time/resources. There is the problem in a nutshell! That is the apathy and lack of unity that previous posters are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 There is the problem in a nutshell! That is the apathy and lack of unity that previous posters are talking about. I'll agree regards the fact there is a lack of unity,but Poontangs post was 100% accurate rather than apathetic.I also am a former pistol shooter,and a realist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 You are making a regular series of mistakes, namely : 1. Politics bears no resemblance to the real world 2. If it looks good politically for votes, then it is going to keep a politician in power. According to a politician, that is good for the country. After all, the other parties are full of idiots. 3. They don't care that gun crime (almost exclusively using illegally held guns) has gone up. 4. The facts are inconvenient (see 1 and 2 above) so can be ignored I do recall a few years ago, at one of the gun crime charities, it was proposed that their money would be better used buying up handguns on the street for destruction, rather than lobbying. Unsurprisingly, the 'top dogs' at the charity made sure that was quietly killed off. After all, can't have them losing their plush london offices, and access to people in power Oh ... 5. Yes, I'm a total cynic. I used to be a target pistol owner. Very accurate assessment of the issue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacist Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 In the USA the NRA is extremely powerful both in terms of numbers but also, more importantly in terms of money and they are united. Unfortunately shooters in the UK are split over over a dozen or so organisations. If we were united we would carry more political clout but there is too much apathy. For those of you too young to know this, Sebastian Coe, now Lord Coe and recently responsible for the London Olympics was the President of the National Pistol Association up until the Dunblane massacre when he promptly resigned and deserted us as it was not politically wise for him to remain in post. Sadly I doubt if the pistol ban will ever be repealed but pistol shooting is still very possible via black powder, long barreled revolvers and .22 long arm free pistols. The best that could be achieved in the circumstances and thanks mostly to the NSRA who took the test case on the long arm pistol to the High Court and won as it failed the true definition of a pistol due to its length with long barrel and balance rods. You can also own short or semi-auto pistols abroad and shoot them overseas in the Channel Islands, Isle of Man and further afield such as Olympic competitors had to do in Switzerland in the run up to the London Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) You can also own short or semi-auto pistols abroad and shoot them overseas in the Channel Islands, Isle of Man and further afield such as Olympic competitors had to do in Switzerland in the run up to the London Olympics And ( N Ireland. ) You don't have to leave the United Kingdom. Edited June 14, 2013 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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