Drayman Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Anyone scrapped a shotgun? - is it just a visit to the local RFD and say "scrap that and inform the law, and I'll inform them too"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 you transfer it to the rfd and tell the police as normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Just take it to the police station. Done it with shotgun and rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 if you hand it in to a police station,,make sure you get the relevant paper work off them to send in to your local firearms dept.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 ALWAYS get the paperwork for anything like this: I always make a copy and Register it at the post office for SENDING information to the F/A/D:: I got a letter from mine some years back stating I had not informed them:: told them I had DATED Copy and Registration from the post office.. Funny it all went quiet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 It goes without saying that you should be very sure of what you are scrapping. There is a chance that you might be scrapping something which is worth something if even only for the parts. If it works and is safe then why not give it to someone who could use it and may be strapped for cash? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Just take it to the police station. Done it with shotgun and rifle. I did this many years ago with a very old BSA .22LR rifle. They gave me a receipt for it, and I sent my certificate and receipt off for a 1-1 variation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 If you contact one of the rfds on here they may have it off you for parts and maybe a few quid in your pocket aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 It goes without saying that you should be very sure of what you are scrapping. There is a chance that you might be scrapping something which is worth something if even only for the parts. If it works and is safe then why not give it to someone who could use it and may be strapped for cash? J. Thanks for the replies - always helpful to check when folks have been through this before.. I bought the gun a while ago via a forum member - it was advertised through the forum but the description was 'somewhat economical'. Turned out the gun is not completely tight on the face. Other than that it has very good barrels and works but I feel it needs fixing. I've put it down to experience but won't be going that route again. I'm going to the gunsmith later this week to get a price to fix (not a difficult fix in the right hands) but suspect I will be better off putting the money to another gun. That will probably leave me with a gun that's not wanted, unless the shop wants it. We'll see what happens but I fully expect to be scrapping it. You live and learn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Took some of mine in recently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Took some of mine in recently was that after the CPSA banned pump action guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm sure you can find someone on here to give it to, save wasting it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 and remind me if there are any penalties for selling a gun that is out of proof etc, if its as described I'd be surprised if it was a good idea to pass onto anyone other than a rfd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 was that after the CPSA banned pump action guns Nah. FEO reckoned my cabinet wasn't big enough so I either had to get rid of some or fit an alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman Posted December 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 and remind me if there are any penalties for selling a gun that is out of proof etc, if its as described I'd be surprised if it was a good idea to pass onto anyone other than a rfd The barrels are well within proof - that's the first thing I had the RFD check when it arrived at his shop (it was RFD'd to a local shop), but he pointed out the movement on the face. It doesn't show with the fore end on the gun, only when you take it off, and it's not that much but it is there. His description at the time was "probably OK for now but needs to be fixed for the future". I would only pass it on to someone if I gave them all the details, unlike the original seller, hence my question about scrapping it. The gunsmith may surprise me and come in with a good price, but somehow life isn't generally like that. I'll know later this week but I wanted to be in a knowledgeable position when I make the decision on what to do with it. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) The barrels are well within proof - that's the first thing I had the RFD check when it arrived at his shop (it was RFD'd to a local shop), but he pointed out the movement on the face. It doesn't show with the fore end on the gun, only when you take it off, and it's not that much but it is there. His description at the time was "probably OK for now but needs to be fixed for the future". I would only pass it on to someone if I gave them all the details, unlike the original seller, hence my question about scrapping it. The gunsmith may surprise me and come in with a good price, but somehow life isn't generally like that. I'll know later this week but I wanted to be in a knowledgeable position when I make the decision on what to do with it. Cheers. What is the gun?, most can have hinge bolts, stub bolts or in the case of ta beretta, stub u bolts or action fences replaced to effect a retightening. this will probably be worth doing providing the gun isn't a hatsan ! If nothing else its a gun full of spare parts to someone ! dont give it to the police to illegally resell recycle into drain covers. Edited December 17, 2012 by Canis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 was that after the CPSA banned pump action guns A lot of them look like semi`s.... man there must have been a few quids worth there before they had their barrels bent and destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman Posted December 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 What is the gun?, most can have hinge bolts, stub bolts or in the case of ta beretta, stub u bolts or action fences replaced to effect a retightening. this will probably be worth doing providing the gun isn't a hatsan ! If nothing else its a gun full of spare parts to someone ! dont give it to the police to illegally resell recycle into drain covers. Its a side lock SxS Zabala. There's a very good one on Gunstar for £500 so this one is going to be worth considerably less! I'll see what the smith says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 and remind me if there are any penalties for selling a gun that is out of proof etc, if its as described I'd be surprised if it was a good idea to pass onto anyone other than a rfd If there is ever any question of a gun being out of proof it can be given away, which is perfectly legal and that's what I suggested if it is otherwise going to go for scrap. Its a side lock SxS Zabala. There's a very good one on Gunstar for £500 so this one is going to be worth considerably less! I'll see what the smith says. Prices can vary quite a bit, if it's not economical to repair it then let someone off here take it. I know a gun smith who is almost retired, he does a great job and charges hardly anything. I'm sure that someone on here will be able to take it if needed and get it fixed for a reasonable cost, giving them a nice gun that would otherwise be wasted. No, I don't want or need it, but someone here will probably find a good home for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nah. FEO reckoned my cabinet wasn't big enough so I either had to get rid of some or fit an alarm. I don't understand that. Is he saying that if you had a bigger cabinet then you wouldn't need to fit an alarm because you could leave some guns outside the cabinet? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Its a side lock SxS Zabala. There's a very good one on Gunstar for £500 so this one is going to be worth considerably less! I'll see what the smith says. Even if 'considerably less' equates to fifty quid then it's fifty quid more than scrapping it and considering that it will probably cost you a couple of quid to drive it to the cops or an RFD it's fifty two quid less than scrapping it. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Took some of mine in recently so many guns, how sad is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) and remind me if there are any penalties for selling a gun that is out of proof etc, if its as described I'd be surprised if it was a good idea to pass onto anyone other than a rfd A gun thats off its face is not out of proof. every gun is off its face (its all a matter of degree) and its usually quite an easy job to restore it. It doesn't make the gun dangerous. All they do is put a bit of weld on the pivot point and re-file it. It was usually a job to give to the apprentice back in the days when there was an apprentice. Idiots and bodgers use a centrepunch which lasts no time at all. Do not scrap the gun!!! and do not believe the dealer if he tells you it can't easily be fixed. Some dealers are just sharks who will "take it off your hands sir" then fix it and out it themselves for a few hundred quid. I hate dealers sometimes. when my friend Greg died suddenly a few years ago the police took his guns to a local dealer. Among them was a Browning O/U that was immaculate, I reckon it had 400 cartridges through it from new at the most. I would put it around £2000- £2,300 trade in. His wife knew nothing about guns. I heard much later she got £500 for four shotguns including the browning and an AYA no 4 plus two others I never saw so I have no idea what they were. But Greg was a hospital consultant and Greek. He didn't buy anything that wasn't top notch. guns were status and swagger to him. It could have been a cased pair of Hollands or Purdeys for all I know. Also, in all my life I have never heard of anyone ever getting prosecuted for selling an out of proof gun. A law against it does exist on the statute books but it must be one of the most redundant laws imaginable. Edited December 17, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 so many guns, how sad is that. The story went that alot of owners bent their own barells before handing them in so no one could sell one on - just had no faith or trust in their government. Someone posted a video on here once of them being cut up with a bench disc cutter - brought tears to my eyes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 I don't understand that. Is he saying that if you had a bigger cabinet then you wouldn't need to fit an alarm because you could leave some guns outside the cabinet? J. Just the way I had them stacked in the cabinet made it difficult for him to count them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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