enzonapoli1990 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Recently the pigeons ive been shooting 1 in 3 or so havnt been clean kills the bird is merely wounded im using 30 grams 6 shot which is fine when im pheasant shooting. Any tips to get a better clean kill ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 The shotgun is an amazing tool for wounding animals. There are very few shooters who can put everything they shoot in the centre of their pattern every time and kill the target stone dead in the air. That said, there is nothing wrong with plenty of practice on the clays and using the correct load and choke for the job in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzonapoli1990 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thats just the point clay shooting most of the time the clay gets a direct hit and breaks into 50 pieces and with only 21 gram loads (more practice in the field i recon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 get hold of some 3" magnum cases and load them with 50g of number 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzonapoli1990 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Haha my last resort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Seems a high ratio to me , perhaps you just need to shoot straighter or estimate range better , what choke are you using ? perhaps worth going tighter on choke , that of course will not help if you are not shooting straight but may give more clean misses or clean kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzonapoli1990 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I do have a slight problem with range if a bird is coming over head its a dead bird but when they are coming right to left or left to right at 30 yards the bird will often get to see another day. As for chokes i use 1/4 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 I do have a slight problem with range if a bird is coming over head its a dead bird but when they are coming right to left or left to right at 30 yards the bird will often get to see another day. As for chokes i use 1/4 1/2 your answer is in your post you are missing them 30 grams 6 shot will kill pigeons all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brent52 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 1/2 choke kills clean , use in both barells in my siver pig, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 try using 1/2 and 3/4, that little bit might make all the difference, also have a few shots at a pattern plate and try different chokes and cartridges as you may not be getting a good pattern from your chosen setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 IMO the chokes you are using are OK, as are the cartridges. It could be you are taking shots that are on the edge of effective range, why not pace out some distances and familiarise yourself with them. If shooting over decoys its easy to place a stick at a chosen distance and try to take all birds inside that marker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzonapoli1990 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks for the advise guys il be sure to try some of them out much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Give the a Bit more lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 if u horseshoe your deeks try putting a crow deek with em at about 35yds paced out .that gives u a clear marker and shoot at em under this range it helped me no end having a" rangefinder"to stop over ambitious shots .also if u still have the problem bring em in 5yards .atb clakk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AD Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Give the a Bit more lead. lead or lead(leed) ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 giving it more lead wont help if your shooting in front or over the top. choke wont help if the gun is not in the right place and cartridges being changed is highly unlikely to help. A bird over head is a dead bird means you can shoot when you just pull through the bird and do it rather than see the lead- so see a coach !in the meantime only take the shots you know you will get and forget the rest. If you always do what you did and it didn't work then you will always get what you always got! 1-3 aint too bad for wildfowling from your knees on a slimey, muddy gutter bank on your knees in the half light but I haven't got a clue about from a comfortable hide in broad daylight so my comments are general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Could be any number of reasons, not enough / too much lead, stopping the gun........... Could also be your gun shoots high for you. That's why you kill driven but not crossers. Edited January 12, 2013 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 any number of reasons, range estimation. choke choice.... etc. but in all honesty, it seems like you are hitting them but not enough. you can either tighten chokes, this should have almost no impact to your setup. or just shoot stuff closer. maybe bring the decoy pattern closer. not only closer shots to incomers, should be better on those birds leaving pattern too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzonapoli1990 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Good advice from everyone going shooting tomorrow and will put them to the test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakwak2006 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 The 30g in 6 is perfect for the pigeons so do not change it.. Just tray no to shoo further then 35 meters and do not stop moving the shotgun... A clay pigeon is slower the a wood pigeon en softer so you can not compare then to each other. Good luck with the shooting tomorrow and keep us posted.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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