Accurate shooting

[Pigeon mental]

Hey guys I've just brought a webley longbow se .22 break barrell I've been zeroing it to 35 yds with accupell dome pellets but can't seem to get every 1 on target some times they stray off a couple of inches and the gun is fixed in position is it the pellets. am I using right 1s any advice would b much appreciated cheers!!!

[SakoQuad]

probably pellets. Have you cleaned the gunge out of the barrel? New guns often have grease etc in them that needs getting rid off.

 

I watched a guy at club recently spray a target trying to zero a new gun. In his case it appeared to be a completely screwed seal that had got damaged when he had cocked the gun at some point. My experience of pellets is that many guns are quite fussy and I have certainly had pellets deviate up to an inch over 30 yards in all 3 sub 12ft lbs guns I have owned.

 

If barrel is clean, scope fitted properly and tight and nothing obviously wrong with the barrel seal try other pellets, AA, Superdome, H&N might be worth trying, see if any mates have some you can try as pricey to buy tins at a time!

 

Others will certainly have a different experience but in my guns AA field & target and Accupells were never much good while H&N, Logun and Falcon were all outstandingly consistent.

[Pigeon mental]

Thank for the advice mate will look into it !!

[fenboy]

If you mean the gun is in a fixed position as in clamped in something then that is likely to be the issue , spring guns do not like being held tightly let alone clamped.

[Pigeon mental]

Not clamped just on a bi pod not moving to much

[Sha Bu Le]

Is the bipod one of those that clip onto the barrrel or fixed to the forestock?

 

Try the gun on a bean bag but not the barrel, the front end stock only.

Edited January 19, 2013 by Sha Bu Le

[Pigeon mental]

Just clip on mate

 

[Eskoky]

Try firing a tin of pellets through it before trying to zero it perfectly. New guns, especially springers need a little firing to settle down. Unless it is a useless BSA lightning with a bent barrel !!!!!

[FalconFN]

Is the bipod one of those that clip onto the barrrel or fixed to the forestock?

 

Try the gun on a bean bag but not the barrel, the front end stock only.

 

+1 Resting on the barrel will give you no consistency at all

[pigeon mad]

My advice is learn how to shoot properly !!

 

 

Pigeon mental is my twin brother by the way lol lol 😃😃😃

[Pigeon mental]

Very funny lol don't think them accupells work consistent with the gun gonna try others

[turbo33]

+1 Resting on the barrel will give you no consistency at all

 

+1 the weight of the rifle will be hanging on the barrel which will cause massive inaccuracy..........found that out on an s410. The best position for a clip on bipod is...............the bin

Edited January 19, 2013 by turbo33

[Pigeon mental]

Well that's where it is now lol cheers

[-Mongrel-]

Others will certainly have a different experience but in my guns AA field & target and Accupells were never much good while H&N, Logun and Falcon were all outstandingly consistent.

 

Now that has really surprised me as I've always found the AA Fields top notch in most guns I've had, but never liked the Logun pellets.

Edited January 19, 2013 by -Mongrel-

[SakoQuad]

Now that has really surprised me as I've always found the AA Fields top notch in most guns I've had, but never liked the Logun pellets.

 

Majority of folk I know would agree about the AA's I think but both AA rifles and a Daystate I had really didn't like them but all three liked the H&N and Loguns and were spot on. I reckoned I used to get an average of 3 "flyers" out of every ten pellets anything between 1/4" and 3/4" with the AA's

 

With Falcons all my rifles could literally, repeatedly, place pellet on pellet at 30 yards on the indoor range off a rest, not clover leaf, just one hole. On the outside range they were less successful if any wind at all as they are a light pellet. I should say these were .177 and not .22 calibre.

[NIGHT SEARCHER]

Accupells and Verminpell are very good pellets and usually very accurate.

 

You could try RWS Superdomes or RWS Superfields both work well in all my guns.

 

I would clean your barrel then put 20 shots though it to lead the barrel.

 

Check that your mounts and scope are tight and not moving.

 

With a springer you need to learn the Artillery hold you will find it on YOU TUBE.

 

It will improve your shooting no end. A springer needs to be allowed to recoil.

 

Perhaps the Mole will put it up on here for you.

[pest popper]

If they are a tin of accupell bought in say, the last 6-12 months just put them in the bin. The old pellets were made by another manufacturer and were very consistant. I bought a new tin for my hw95 the other week, went to zero at 14 yards and couldnt hit the target (1m square box!) some pellets were to big and wouldnt fit in barrel. Some were sung, others fell halfway down the barrel.

 

I asked a load of people about it on another forum and theres 100's of other people having the same problem. They arnt what they used to be.

[kimh]

there's some good advise here in this thread for you,

points...

each rifle has a preferred pellet, you have to find it and you may have already, it's just identifying what could be wrong

I would not use a pod for a springer, you need an artillery hold

look it up

I presume your rifle is in good service?

presume you have taken note of comments in the thread?

The only other thing that I have had experience with is... if you repeatedly shoot (cock) a springer in a zeroing situation you can warm the moving components thus changing the shot out come? you wont get this will hunting or normal target shooting as there is a time between shooting where things are stable, a warm barrel will give you a different out come

Also watch your seating of the pellet, make a set tool that pushes the pellet in the barrel say 3mm to centralise the skirt

If you really want to eliminate pellet error you also need to identify how many dies they have used for your tin of pellet by sizing and weighing each pellet

Last but not least, trigger pull, try this...

 

good luck

[Pigeon mental]

Thanks a lot for a the great feed back guys really helped me out I think it was a simple case of bad pellets but the new hold I will def b taking on the field will let u all no the outcome on wed night going on new permission 70 acres of horse paddocks

[kent]

No springer will shoot off a bipod, they have to be allowed a free pull-push during recoil. even a firm hand hold don't get the best out of them. Pcp and powder burners are a way different animal

[secretagentmole]

No springer will shoot off a bipod, they have to be allowed a free pull-push during recoil. even a firm hand hold don't get the best out of them. Pcp and powder burners are a way different animal

 

That is why you should use the artillery hold!

[demonwolf444]

Thanks a lot for a the great feed back guys really helped me out I think it was a simple case of bad pellets but the new hold I will def b taking on the field will let u all no the outcome on wed night going on new permission 70 acres of horse paddocks

practice on paper every night between now and then, you dont want to take any risks.

[NIGHT SEARCHER]

If Accupell pellets have dropped of in quality and consistentcy.

 

Buy Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums.

 

They are cheaper and the finish and quality are excellent very accurate pellets.

 

Accupells were Crosman Ultra Magnums just re-bagged and more expensive.

[kent]

 

 

That is why you should use the artillery hold!

 

Call it any name you wish, just don't strangle one

[Sha Bu Le]

Just clip on mate

 

Bin the bipod no good on any airgun, barrel must be allowed to do its own thing. Now use almost 100% a HW100 pcp but do have a springer, Bizza Lightning XL.........very hold sensitive but can be got to grips with. Takes lots of practise, just hold a springer like your first baby (assuming you're a pop).