Thedeerman Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Would it be legal to make your own section 1 firearm, providing you have a slot for the calibre you are making on your ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majordisorder Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Ok, so how do you do this. Say you buy an action / lower from one RDF and a chambered barrel from another etc, what gets marked on your ticket or do you need slots for the component parts? Edited January 22, 2013 by majordisorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I built a rifle out of bits two or three years ago. I got the slots put on my ticket for an action and a seperate barrel. I bought a Savage F12 target action from NW customs guns and did a personal import direct from Shilens for a select grade match barrel in 6mmbr. I bought a Sav-2 trigger direct from Rifle basix in the US and a Richards Microfit stock direct from Richards and a Ken Farrell 20moa sight rail again direct. Being a Savage build you can fit the barrel with no machining necessary. Five shots 110 yds Five shots 220yds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 That's a nice rifle! What if you wanted to start completely from scratch? Reason I ask is, I've been looking to get another .410 pistol with no success and have been looking into the possibility of making a simple single shot derringer style pistol. Just wondered how I would stand with getting such a thing put on my ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 That's a nice rifle! What if you wanted to start completely from scratch? Reason I ask is, I've been looking to get another .410 pistol with no success and have been looking into the possibility of making a simple single shot derringer style pistol. Just wondered how I would stand with getting such a thing put on my ticket? I think you may have a problem with that - You might have got away with it in the pistol shooting days, and you may still get away with it now if you were to make a muzzle loading BP type pistol - I know you can get kits to make BP pistols, both flint and percussion - requires a bit of investigation I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 You would need a CNC mill and engineering experience surely? Shame really cos 10 years ago I would have machined it for you if you had drawings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 You can do it, I think you'd just make it and get a RFD to enter it onto your certificate. The only bit I'm not sure about is the part between making it and getting it on ticket, that may be slightly tricky. It may be possible to make it into the various components and take it to be entered, then assemble them. You just need to find a way to not have a firearm in your possession without it being on your ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 You would need a CNC mill and engineering experience surely? Shame really cos 10 years ago I would have machined it for you if you had drawings. They seemd to manage quite well without CNC machinery two hundred years ago. I knocked this one up with only a file and a post drill about 40 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 They seemd to manage quite well without CNC machinery two hundred years ago. I knocked this one up with only a file and a post drill about 40 years ago. Yer but 200 years ago you chucked your poo onto the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm a time served engineer, the making if it would not be an issue. I've got a set of files and a drill. CNC is for lazy people. Just wanted to know I would stand legally. I think I'd better ring the firearms dept and get them scratching their heads! Already got an open slot for .410 pistol so no worries there. Although I would be tempted to make a 9mm rimfire instead and get a variation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 My apologies r.e. the CNC reference/suggestion-I thought the op wanted to make a gun.I missed the bit where he said he would like to make it as hard as possible for himself........silly me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam1e Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 They seemd to manage quite well without CNC machinery two hundred years ago. I knocked this one up with only a file and a post drill about 40 years ago. That's really nice, considering what tools you used. Fair play to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) I'm a time served engineer, the making if it would not be an issue. I've got a set of files and a drill. CNC is for lazy people. Just wanted to know I would stand legally. I think I'd better ring the firearms dept and get them scratching their heads! Already got an open slot for .410 pistol so no worries there. Although I would be tempted to make a 9mm rimfire instead and get a variation. Don't be sure that the FLD will get it right. They're only human, and have been known to make mistakes, and this is a little out of the ordinary. Just because they tell you how to do it doesn't guarantee it's legal. Perhaps BASC would be a better bet - ask the people with lawyers who specialize in firearms law. Edited January 22, 2013 by bedwards1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 It would be no fun if it were easy! CNC has its place, but it wouldn't get me away from the Mrs for a few hours whilst filing a lump of steel in the shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Proofing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majordisorder Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Proofing ? Only if you sell it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I built a rifle out of bits two or three years ago. I got the slots put on my ticket for an action and a seperate barrel. I bought a Savage F12 target action from NW customs guns and did a personal import direct from Shilens for a select grade match barrel in 6mmbr. I bought a Sav-2 trigger direct from Rifle basix in the US and a Richards Microfit stock direct from Richards and a Ken Farrell 20moa sight rail again direct. Being a Savage build you can fit the barrel with no machining necessary. Five shots 110 yds Five shots 220yds i love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Proofing ? Only if you sell it on If you are happy to fire an unproofed gun made by hand by an amateur gunsmith its most likely that the issue of if you can sell it on afterwards is unlikel;y to come up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 If you are happy to fire an unproofed gun made by hand by an amateur gunsmith its most likely that the issue of if you can sell it on afterwards is unlikel;y to come up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hi all. Just a wee hijack. I am looking at an alternative barrel for my hornet any ideas how you go about doing the variation ? Looking into a faster twist k hornet chambered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 proofing is the easy bit .you phone Birmingham book it in they give you a time and date you turn up and hand it over you can ether wait there or go for a walk whilst they do it if it pass you pay the bill (£50ish) and take the gun home .if it fails you pay the bill and you can ether take what's left home or ask them to dispose of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Hi all. Just a wee hijack. I am looking at an alternative barrel for my hornet any ideas how you go about doing the variation ? Looking into a faster twist k hornet chambered. No variation required. Just take it to a riflesmith and get them to re barrel it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 No variation required. Just take it to a riflesmith and get them to re barrel it for you. I would like to keep the old barrel though as there is nothing wrong with it. May be worth a bob or two in a few years ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I would like to keep the old barrel though as there is nothing wrong with it. May be worth a bob or two in a few years ha ha ask for a slot for a spare barrel, i have one for .17ah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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