Gibbybox Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Evening folks! Exuse my ignorance if this is a stupid question, I'm fairly new to shooting so bear with me... How do I unload a chambered round in my CZ 452 .22LR? Sometimes when out shooting rabbits a shot will present itself so I chamber a round only for the rabbit to disappear before I get the shot off and I'm left with a loaded gun. As I shoot alone I tend to put the safety on and carry on until another rabbit appears and use the round then. The problem arises when I am finished shooting and have to fire the round safely into the ground, ensuring that the ground is at a suitable angle to absorb the bullet without deflection. Is there a way to remove the unfired round without gouging it out with a knife? I've never had to unload a chambered .243 round yet but if the situation does arise is it easier to remove it? The rifle is a Tikka LSA-55 from the 1970s. Thanks in advance Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) You unload it in the same way as you would for a fired case... Edited January 22, 2013 by Big Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 The bolt should remove the round when you recycle it. If it doesnt then it sounds like you've got a problem with the extractor. Does it eject the emtpy case after you fire a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Just pull back the bolt and remove the round. Nothing complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 sounds like you may have an extractor problem mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt94 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yes, definitely should eject as you cycle the bolt. I find the issue is they usually shoot away and I have to search for them on the ground so the way i do it is I place the very base of the thimb in front for the bolt handle and cover the chamber with my hand so as I pull back with my thumb the round ejects. This is probably made easier cause I have a straight pull bolt, but I have seen it done by other shooters on standard bolts for 270s 308s etc. Works well. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimey121uk Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Its just a case of pulling the bolt back, I have a CZ452 in HMR Whenever I need to make the gun safe I extract the live round, remove the mag, leave the bolt open and to be honest I don't use the safety catch at all as I don't see a use for it. Edited January 22, 2013 by grimey121uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt94 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yes I do something similar with my HMR. Remove mag, cycle bolt twice/three times to confirm clear close bolt and decock to take the strain off the firing pin, I guess there is the dispute of dry firing a rifle on this though. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Yes I do something similar with my HMR. Remove mag, cycle bolt twice/three times to confirm clear close bolt and decock to take the strain off the firing pin, I guess there is the dispute of dry firing a rifle on this though. Each to their own. Press the trigger whilst closing the bolt so the striker never cocks its self. That avoids having to snap the action with an empty chamber. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Yes I do something similar with my HMR. Remove mag, cycle bolt twice/three times to confirm clear close bolt and decock to take the strain off the firing pin, I guess there is the dispute of dry firing a rifle on this though. I do similar,but I leave the mag' in while I eject the live round otherwise it drops out of the mag' well and is then lost,especially at night. If you squeeze and hold the trigger fully compressed as you slide the bolt forward and close the action on an empty breech,then the pin is eased without need for a dry-fire. JL beat me to it. Edited January 22, 2013 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbybox Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for the rapid response! It does sound like I have an ejector problem then, I inherited the rifle from my dad who hasn't fired it in years. I did have a problem once where it wouldn't eject empty cases but that was solved with a good clean of the chamber. Is this something I may be able to fix myself or should I take it to a gunsmith? Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 sounds like the extractor may need sharpening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 It may need the extractor replacing. Is there much lead deposit in the throat which could be gripping the bullet when chambered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) sounds like the extractor may need sharpening I am confused in the post he never said anything about the rifle not extracting a loaded round. Just that he fired it into the ground rather than extracting the round using the bolt. I've never had to unload a chambered .243 round yet but if the situation does arise is it easier to remove it? The rifle is a Tikka LSA-55 from the 1970s. The above post suggests that he is talking about rifles in general and not one that might have a bad extractor. PS If it didn't extract i would do what you are doing fire it into the ground if it was a .22. It might get a bit expensive if using .243 etc. Edited January 22, 2013 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbybox Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Just to clarify, I did try pulling the bolt back as you would do after firing but the round stays in the chamber and does not pop out like it does once it has been fired. It is pretty clean I think, I've still to get a set of rods and some Hoppe's No.9 to give it a good clean. At the moment I've just cleaned the throat with cotton buds and oil, maybe that's the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrys Bird Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Have the same rifle and it did the same with me but ended up it was the bullets CCI sub sonic they just didn't eject every time spent or live changed to a different make off bullet and that cured it hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbybox Posted January 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for your input Harrys Bird, I'm using Eley subs (all I have ever used) so may try some Winchesters next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrys Bird Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for your input Harrys Bird, I'm using Eley subs (all I have ever used) so may try some Winchesters next time! Winchester is what i use and i find them ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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