Underdog Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Just say I traded my springers and went for a PCP! Which one? Before you answer, bear in mind it would have to be second hand (not much money) and a simple design, single shot and not very long or heavy. Underdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoben fenman Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Probably would have to go aa s200. BUT there is also the price of charging gear. If its going to be single shot anyway I would stick with the springers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 S200/S400 and a stirrup pump. I am guessing that if you only want single shot it's a hunting tool, in which case you are unlikely to take enough shots to require a refill mid session, so, a stirrup pump will be adequate for your needs. I am a big Air Arms fan though so a bit biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 falcon fn19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 As "Mongrel" says Air Arms all the way given your budget restrictions . Advantages. Easy to work on with plenty of spares readily available.(including after market multi shot magazine ) Very reliable. As accurate as anything out there. These are a really good pre-loved buy once the original buyer has taken the majority of the depreciation,and they sell on well . Loads of forum advice available. All in all the Air Arms 400 is about as good as it gets for anyone on a restricted budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Webley raider or BSA ultra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolhandMal Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Just say I traded my springers and went for a PCP! Which one? Before you answer, bear in mind it would have to be second hand (not much money) and a simple design, single shot and not very long or heavy. Underdog. Brocock do a light Synthetic single shot called the Hunter,it's single shot and extremely light too,I have seen second hand ones on Gunstar for £150, great little gun I sold mine last year and now have an Hatsan AT44 with both stocks,I fit the synthetic when my joints are playing up and if I go to my hide I favour the wooden stock as I just love the look of it lol ATB Mal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 cheapest i'd say would be, s200 fn19 stealth but if you bide your time some real bargains pop up now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why ho Why do so many go on about PCP`s being expensive its utter bull ****. I have spent more on most of my springers than i have on my PCP`s. Cheshire Gun room are selling the Hatsan AT 44 10 shot PCP at £270 new. Here is my list of PCP`s that i have got from GUNSTAR.Gun shops.and Mates that were selling a gun. 1/ Hatsan AT44 10 Wooden stock. 10 shot. Walther barrel. Air gauge. New £265. 2/ Logun Pro 10 shot it came with Bi pod. scope. Silencer. Bag. HILL`S PUMP. S/H £300. Bargain. 3/ Logun Solo .177 10 shot the gun came with Scope.Silencer. 10 shot mag. S/H £250. 4/ Logun Solo .22 10 shot the gun came with scope. Silencer. 10 shot mag.S/H £260. 5/ BSA Super 10 Bull Barrel. came with Bag. 3 x 10 shot Mags mint gun S/H £250. 6/ Daystate Huntsman FTR. It came in a **** camo job with scope.Silencer.Very cheap at £190. I stripped it had it re-buld and re-finished the stock the gun is now mint and stands me at £260. 7/ TITEN MCO 10 the gun came MINT with Silencer.Scope. and a 3 lit 300 BAR bottle £260. I also have a 12 lit 232 Bottle that i give £30 out of test. £25 test so £55 for bottle and gauge. PCP`S EXPENSIVE MY ***. SHOP AROUND. GOOD LUCK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Any one tried a Benjamine Discovery? Going cheap local! Longer than I wish but light (I believe)! Look like a simple tunable design for an old fiddler like me! U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Why ho Why do so many go on about PCP`s being expensive its utter bull ****. I have spent more on most of my springers than i have on my PCP`s. Cheshire Gun room are selling the Hatsan AT 44 10 shot PCP at £270 new. Here is my list of PCP`s that i have got from GUNSTAR.Gun shops.and Mates that were selling a gun. 1/ Hatsan AT44 10 Wooden stock. 10 shot. Walther barrel. Air gauge. New £265. 2/ Logun Pro 10 shot it came with Bi pod. scope. Silencer. Bag. HILL`S PUMP. S/H £300. Bargain. 3/ Logun Solo .177 10 shot the gun came with Scope.Silencer. 10 shot mag. S/H £250. 4/ Logun Solo .22 10 shot the gun came with scope. Silencer. 10 shot mag.S/H £260. 5/ BSA Super 10 Bull Barrel. came with Bag. 3 x 10 shot Mags mint gun S/H £250. 6/ Daystate Huntsman FTR. It came in a **** camo job with scope.Silencer.Very cheap at £190. I stripped it had it re-buld and re-finished the stock the gun is now mint and stands me at £260. 7/ TITEN MCO 10 the gun came MINT with Silencer.Scope. and a 3 lit 300 BAR bottle £260. I also have a 12 lit 232 Bottle that i give £30 out of test. £25 test so £55 for bottle and gauge. PCP`S EXPENSIVE MY ***. SHOP AROUND. GOOD LUCK. Numbers 5 & 6 are reasonable guns, you're welcome to the rest. The cheapies are cheap for good reason, build quality. Edited February 24, 2013 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) Numbers 5 & 6 are reasonable guns, you're welcome to the rest. The cheapies are cheap for good reason, build quality. Why make a comment on something you are obviously clueless about. 1/ HATSAN AT 44 Nice wood stock. Walther match barrel. Air gauge. 2 x 10 shot mags. And with good oil and bedding in. Very accurate and smooth Rifle. For the money outstanding. 2/ The Logun Pro was a £800 Gun 15 years ago. Hand Built by Logun superb quality. Silky smooth 10 shot bolt action. Superb barrel deadly Accurate. Pure quality. 3/ Both the Logun Solos are made by FX. Its the same Gun as the FX Typhoon. Nice bolt action very accurate. Good build quality and light. 100 shoots per charge. 4/ TITEN MCO 10. Very nice stock. Outstanding Blueing. Superb hand built quality. Very Very Accurate they were very popular on the FT and HFT Competitions. There`s a gunsmith friend of mine that has one and still shoots FT and HFT with it. I have tried to buy it loads of times but he will never part with it. TITEN were so good Falcon bought them out and re-badged there guns. And you only rate the Daystate Huntsman FTR has a reasonable Rifle and the BSA Super10. Are you Drunk. What is life like on your planet. Edited February 24, 2013 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I did not want a bitching session gentlemen U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) I am not bitching Underdog I just hope what I have posted as given you some idea of what you can get for your money. And what sort of quality you can get if your on a budget. But when somebody says half your PCP collection is cheap and poor quality. WELL. Good luck and Happy Edited February 24, 2013 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Unfortunately the AT44 will always attract the neigh sayers (aka Findus Lasagne eaters), for the same reason any Hatsan will, too cheap! I mean that, the Hatsan range is way too cheap, the 55 and 60 are the same gun as the Stingray mark 2 (twice the price of the 55 and 60). The Hatsan AT44 is their version of the Raider 10, superbly safe, cannot be double loaded, Walthered so it is highly accurate. The fact you get 2x10 shot magazines means that you have no usual expense of the hunter, ie I need a second magazine! Walnut wood stocks, 2 stage trigger, 1/2 unf screw cut for silencer, there is a lot to like! Obviously the critic has never owned one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Do not discount the Daystate X2 either, we picked one up for £275 with a 300 bar carbon cylinder, Hawke MAP scope, bipod, gun bag and silencer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 crikey someone got out of bed the wrong side today :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolhandMal Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Unfortunately the AT44 will always attract the neigh sayers (aka Findus Lasagne eaters), for the same reason any Hatsan will, too cheap! I mean that, the Hatsan range is way too cheap, the 55 and 60 are the same gun as the Stingray mark 2 (twice the price of the 55 and 60). The Hatsan AT44 is their version of the Raider 10, superbly safe, cannot be double loaded, Walthered so it is highly accurate. The fact you get 2x10 shot magazines means that you have no usual expense of the hunter, ie I need a second magazine! Walnut wood stocks, 2 stage trigger, 1/2 unf screw cut for silencer, there is a lot to like! Obviously the critic has never owned one! SAM...you hit the nail smack on the head again...as usual :-) BR CHM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Obviously the critic has never owned one! True! Don't buy cheap air rifles, not about to start. They are cheap for a reason. I have handled a couple and they feel cheap, that's enough for me. You pick up a quality rifle it has the feel of what it is, and the old adage of you get what you pay for is based on market economics. If it's very cheap, they must have used cheap parts. If it's got decent wood, they've had to cut costs even further elsewhere. I've owned enough air rifles now to know the difference between a quality piece of kit (AirArms, Daystate, Weirauch et al) and the inferior versions. If you want to use cheap air rifles that's absolutely fine, but don't try and make them out to be more than they are. All of the above is only my opinion of course, you don't have to agree but I am entitled to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Unfortunately the AT44 will always attract the neigh sayers (aka Findus Lasagne eaters), for the same reason any Hatsan will, too cheap! I mean that, the Hatsan range is way too cheap, the 55 and 60 are the same gun as the Stingray mark 2 (twice the price of the 55 and 60). The Hatsan AT44 is their version of the Raider 10, superbly safe, cannot be double loaded, Walthered so it is highly accurate. The fact you get 2x10 shot magazines means that you have no usual expense of the hunter, ie I need a second magazine! Walnut wood stocks, 2 stage trigger, 1/2 unf screw cut for silencer, there is a lot to like! Obviously the critic has never owned one! Did you not sell your At44 shortly after owning it? Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 (edited) VERY SINGLE MINDED OPINION. MOST OF MY GUNS WERE BOUGHT BECAUSE THEY FELT RIGHT WHEN SHOULDERED AND THE SUPERB BUILD QUALITY. Edited February 25, 2013 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 True! Don't buy cheap air rifles, not about to start. They are cheap for a reason. I have handled a couple and they feel cheap, that's enough for me. You pick up a quality rifle it has the feel of what it is, and the old adage of you get what you pay for is based on market economics. If it's very cheap, they must have used cheap parts. If it's got decent wood, they've had to cut costs even further elsewhere. I've owned enough air rifles now to know the difference between a quality piece of kit (AirArms, Daystate, Weirauch et al) and the inferior versions. If you want to use cheap air rifles that's absolutely fine, but don't try and make them out to be more than they are. All of the above is only my opinion of course, you don't have to agree but I am entitled to it. dont mean to offend but i have to agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Jesus Christ he only asked a simple question btw I've had the s10 aa s400 etc and my favourite was the s10 but the s400 would shoot more accurate than me lol Rgds scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi Underdog have a look on GUNSTAR there`s a Webley Axsor 8 shot PCP. 7 hours ago. It looks in very good condition with 8 shot mag and Silencer for £230. That`s cheap for a Axsor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Im not getting involved look at my sig lol ut jist to say my qb runs at a respectable 11.7 is accurate to a couple of mill and cost me peanuts to buy and fettle ha ha so i ai t got loads of dosh to shell oit but it doesnt feel cheep (yes i have held and fired many rifles) and most of all i really do enjoy shooting with it Got a edgar brothers break barrel here do t lime that thoigh to much twang and to heavy And i said i ai t getting involved **** Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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