wymberley Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 This morning walking through the clover field, the dog stopped at an old badger sett (probably a disused temporary auxiliary sett) and her tail started to go. Walked over, could see the situation so called dog away and we walked on. Seems we've found the first cubs of the year. Now, I don't see the point of writing a thesis just to say that the dog has found this year's first cubs and Mum is using a badger sett as a den. If someone has something to say on the matter, there's ways of doing so before jumping in with both feet before checking on the matter and simply issuing a warning. Wouldn't you think, Teal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 ignoring the politics of this one but its the first I've heard of even though I haven't shot a vixen in ages it all seems to be dogs at the moment. Be good to be getting out and looking for cubs in another month or so as my dog also loves them, last years were like yours using a badger set right by our pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I think it's easy with the cold weather to forget which month were in, it'll be April this coming bank hol weekend but feels like January and so it just doesn't seem right to be expecting to find cubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 made me look for this picture from last year, and the date seems amazing the 9th of April and they were reasonably well grown. 1 to the shotgun and 1 to the GWP as it tried to get back into the old badger set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I think it's easy with the cold weather to forget which month were in, it'll be April this coming bank hol weekend but feels like January and so it just doesn't seem right to be expecting to find cubs Down yer in Devon 'tis a tad warmer - not ****** much though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 I think it's easy with the cold weather to forget which month were in, it'll be April this coming bank hol weekend but feels like January and so it just doesn't seem right to be expecting to find cubs My first thought aswell ! But it is SPRING unbelievably and they will be putting in an appearance shortly.I have 3 billy setts on various land and all produce fox cubs every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Its why the dogs are starting to act stupid I assume as they are having to work hard to keep them fed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 It seems a bit cold to be having cubs but at the same time we did have a short warm spell some time back. Could that have been enough to get them mating? After all once it's done there's no going back, the cubs will arrive in the usual time scale. Can't see any issue with finding cubs in a badger sett? There clearly aren't any badgers in residence if a vixen has either had her cubs there or moved them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I haven't shot a vixen in ages it all seems to be dogs at the moment. hadn't thought of that until just now same for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Can't see any issue with finding cubs in a badger sett? There clearly aren't any badgers in residence if a vixen has either had her cubs there or moved them in? It's not uncommon for badgers and foxes to co-exist in the one sett - the fox usually at one end - and the badgers are quite tolerant of the situation. However, in this instance I know that the sett is an old and disused auxiliary sett. Now, Teal could not be expected to know that I was employed as a field ecologist with the mob just down the road from you at Woodchester carrying out the carcass survey - I ran Cornwall, Devon and Dorset - and as a result can be expected to know just a teensy winsey bit about Brock, his habitat and the law relating to him and his home. However, this does not excuse him from jumping in with his size 13s and giving me a warning that can be seen as unjustified without the courtesy of speaking to me first. In view of the lack of apology, I'm of the opinion that he owes me one - I'll really try and make it a cracker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Your first post (the one you were warned about) was just one line, " Dog has just found the first fox cubs. Still underground with Mum - she's using one end of a badger sett". Nothing there about the badger sett being unused, or your extensive experience and qualifications in interpreting holes in the ground. The thread was removed and it was drawn to your attention that it is illegal to interfere with a badger sett. The post had already been reported by other members, who had drawn the same conclusion from your post. Moderating a public access Forum is not a science and we have to act on what we see. The right decision was made on the information before us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Your first post (the one you were warned about) was just one line, " Dog has just found the first fox cubs. Still underground with Mum - she's using one end of a badger sett". Nothing there about the badger sett being unused, or your extensive experience and qualifications in interpreting holes in the ground. The thread was removed and it was drawn to your attention that it is illegal to interfere with a badger sett. The post had already been reported by other members, who had drawn the same conclusion from your post. Moderating a public access Forum is not a science and we have to act on what we see. The right decision was made on the information before us. Many thanks for that, Cranfield. I take your point about there being nothing said about the badger sett being unused. On the other hand, neither was there anything said about me, or the dog, interfering with it. I still can't help thinking that a similar conversation to this should have taken place before the warning was issued. Never mind, I understand now, on this site, it's guilty until proved innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodlittlebitch Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Dug to a heavily pregnant vixen and vixen and 3 cubs in the last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 thats the trouble with forums, the written word often gets misunderstood knowing Wymberly as i do , I would know he would be the 1st person to walk away from a sett, shame Wymberly had a warning, may of been better to of had a conversation through PM 1st... hope you guys can sort this out like true gentlemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 thats the trouble with forums, the written word often gets misunderstood knowing Wymberly as i do , I would know he would be the 1st person to walk away from a sett, shame Wymberly had a warning, may of been better to of had a conversation through PM 1st... hope you guys can sort this out like true gentlemen Thank you for that, Jasp; but it's not going to happen. Apparently, the system is that some misinterpret what I say and I get a warning. Then, when I complain, my complaint is assessed by the person I made it against and the decision is that I misinterpreted what he said so that's the end of the matter. Sounds fair, doesn't it. Fortunately it's only the internet which is as far from reality, together with a few who inhabit it, as it's possible to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Thank you for that, Jasp; but it's not going to happen. Apparently, the system is that some misinterpret what I say and I get a warning. Then, when I complain, my complaint is assessed by the person I made it against and the decision is that I misinterpreted what he said so that's the end of the matter. Sounds fair, doesn't it. Fortunately it's only the internet which is as far from reality, together with a few who inhabit it, as it's possible to get. It might help you to see the mods point if you consider that this is a publicly viewable forum, and applying the 'average guy' test, its easy to get the wrong impression from your first post. The extra detail on this one made it a nice read, bit of a storm in a teacup really so come on peeps, be friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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