gunmat Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 i have a shotgun licence and i am jus woundering is it easier to get ya firearms licence because i want it on my permission i have 100 acre if u can advise me please do thanks matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 In theory it makes no difference as they do different checks for FACs, but in practice it is a bit easier as the FEO already knows you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk hunter Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Just because you want one does not mean the FEO will let you have one, you need to do is prove that you have a justifiable reason to hold one and the calibre your asking for. No point asking for a 243 for vermin control, as 1 the land may not get passed for that calibre 2 feo may see no need for you to hold that calibre for that reason. I would contact the FEO and find out if the land you shot on has been passed already for FAC. If so ask up to what calibre. This is a good starting point. These days the FEO is so much stricter than years gone by. But this does not mean you wont get one. Just have to be very Thourough with the paper work and cover all basis. They like the word Restictions on a FAC and if they restrict the calibre or what it can be used for then so be it. But you could always joint a club to this will aid the application and get you a FAC to. The more reasons you give the better the chances of not being turned down. Good luck Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG6065 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Go for it, aslong as the land is suitable and you have no previous convictons(obviously you haven't because you hold a shotgun certificate) you will get it. Apply for as many as you feel you will need now and in the future.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 My advice would be, when you fill in the form don`t use text speak, it makes you sound like a chav. ya get wot ah mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 You just have a good reason for the rifle or they will refuse. Regards checks and application it would be very hard / impossable for them to say you are a danger to public with a firearm, but not with a shotgun. It's either or, so you passed them Checks. So as long as you have land, reason, and the right cal applied for then you will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 You have already proved that you are a fit and proper person to hold a SGC. Therefore, as long as you can demonstrate good reason to acquire a rifle, ie somewhere to use it, the police are obliged to issue you with a FAC. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 And remember not to fill in the medical info forms Durham are now including with applications and renewals. Regardless of having an SGC they will also be doing full background checks, I was told this by them last week as it's now their standard procedure even for variations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunmat Posted May 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 cheers for the comment i have put down on the application i would like a 22 lr 22 semi or 22 bolt action for the land i shoot vermin and the place has been passed by the police because the person i shoot with has his gun on there and how much ammunition are u aloud to hold is it 500 thanks matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted May 7, 2013 Report Share Posted May 7, 2013 cheers for the comment i have put down on the application i would like a 22 lr 22 semi or 22 bolt action for the land i shoot vermin and the place has been passed by the police because the person i shoot with has his gun on there and how much ammunition are u aloud to hold is it 500 thanks matty I can hold 700 and purchase 500 ie one box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filzee Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 cheers for the comment i have put down on the application i would like a 22 lr 22 semi or 22 bolt action for the land i shoot vermin and the place has been passed by the police because the person i shoot with has his gun on there and how much ammunition are u aloud to hold is it 500 thanks matty You don't have to state wether it is a semi or a bolt action just say you want a .22lr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 You don't have to state wether it is a semi or a bolt action just say you want a .22lr Thats true only in the section where they ask what firearms you own do they ask for the action. but you can`t just ask for a .22lr you need to fill in the next section where it asks rifle pistol or muzzel loader.` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunmat Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 i did that cheers mate but did i need to put sound modifcation on the form for a silencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Yes, its listed in its own slot, as if it was a firearm reason is for 'hearing protection' rather than 'so I can sneak up on them' i did that cheers mate but did i need to put sound modifcation on the form for a silencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunmat Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 buggar should i ring them and tell them to see if they can put it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Yes, its listed in its own slot, as if it was a firearm reason is for 'hearing protection' rather than 'so I can sneak up on them' I have always put "noise reduction" on mine. Do we really think the police fall for that hearing protection nonsence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 buggar should i ring them and tell them to see if they can put it on If you get a call from your FEO wanting to come and see(interview) you, Ask him to add it then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 The FEO/Licencing people no doubt know the score, But on the FEO's advice, Hearing protection was 'sufficiently good reason' to justify one, rather than 'coz I wanna shoot rabbits without scaring the others away' I have always put "noise reduction" on mine. Do we really think the police fall for that hearing protection nonsence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunmat Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 cheers mate do u no how long it takes for them to come out or is it a waiting game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman1984 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Mine was 4 weeks start to finish in my hand, I was getting told all sorts of horror story's on here about how they will stick a mentoring condition on my ticket because its my first one, and I won't get all the guns I've asked for, ill have to have signed letters from the landowner ect ect... The whole thing was no worse than a shotgun application, the FAO when he comes round will go through all your paperwork and iron out any creases anyway, best of luck hopefully yours will go through as painless as mine did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCD Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 I have always put "noise reduction" on mine. Do we really think the police fall for that hearing protection nonsence. Why is it nonsense to claim that moderators are for hearing protection? We had a hse inspection on the estate 2 years ago and I was specifically asked if my rifles where moderated or if I was supplied hearing protection if I remember right it was because at work you cant legally be exposed to sound levels over 140db Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Durham were quite happy with "hearing protection", I put it on for the first 308 mod I bought. After that I just included one with each subsequent new calibre/rifle variation and they added them without a problem. Still not got my FAC back (for a 1 word variation) will be 2 weeks Tuesday and I have a rifle waiting at the RFD to be picked up and a sec.1 shotgun to buy :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunmat Posted May 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Cheers for all comment the questions he asks you are easy he has approved just waiting,for,firearms to check me now hopefully the will aprove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 If we go back a few years your chances of getting a sound mod were close to zero. The Police attitude to them has changed dramatically since then, general suggestions being they were scared stiff of being sued if they refused after they had been requested on the grounds of hearing protection. Folklore or not, getting a Sound Mod these days is easy. It's all a bit daft in my view anyway, they help yours, your shooting partners and neighbours ears, make for better local relationships and less neighbour complaints and generally help you shoot straighter as well, hell, they may even scare the quarry less as well. Ask for them on whatever grounds you like, can anyone quote a recent example where they have been refused a mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Met Police were happy with "Health and Safety" as a reason for mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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