The life of a drug addict ...

[Lloyd90]

Have seen on quite a few thread's addict's and user's being slated for various reasons. Often reflected to be in self inflicted circumstances etc

 

In some cases this may be true, in other not so ... I just thought I would put this video up, I watched it and it's very eye opening, I know it may well be long but it is well worth a watch.

 

 

 

Some parts will make you laugh, some may make you want to cry. At the least I hope a lot of us can take a look at our lives, up bringing's and what we have and appreciate them a little bit more.

 

Please can we not turn this into a slagging match as well . Appreciated.

[castletyne]

No sympathy for them how many people do they rob to feed their habit

 

I have a few friends from the gang of us that hung around together as kids in the 80s that have died from drink and drugs

 

We all had a similar background and upbringing some of us left school and got jobs the others decided to still hang around together like when we were kids and ended up being **** heads

[la bala]

No sympathy for them how many people do they rob to feed their habit

 

I have a few friends from the gang of us that hung around together as kids in the 80s that have died from drink and drugs

 

We all had a similar background and upbringing some of us left school and got jobs the others decided to still hang around together like when we were kids and ended up being **** heads

well said, i couldnt have put it better.

Edited June 28, 2013 by la bala

[rimmie]

Jesus that was very sad !!

[karpman]

Watched from start to finish and I'm still under the opinion there parasites who should be sterilised.

 

Karpman

[digger]

Stopped watching when I found out it was in Wales.

[bazzab]

Had plenty of dealings with addicts have to say zero sympathy im afraid. They choose to put that in there body's. And the crime etc it causes its insane.

[Psyxologos]

I watched it from start to finish. Sad, but nothing new, I am afraid. Watch the last 20 minutes, you get everything there is to get from the documentary..

[Twistedsanity]

So the general consensus of the PW massive is that thousands of people wake up one day and think to themselves " I know what I'll do, I think ill try out drug addiction for a few years" ?

[Lloyd90]

So the general consensus of the PW massive is that thousands of people wake up one day and think to themselves " I know what I'll do, I think ill try out drug addiction for a few years" ?

 

That's why I posted it up mate, that 1 woman on the documentary started taking drugs because her mother prostituted her out at like age 8

[unapalomablanca]

I dident watch it, but i think i can imagine its content. The problem is, being weak on drug addiction is cruel, it makes the problem what it is. When you hear the slogan 'the war on drugs', its just propaganda. If you got hard on drugs, really hard, then it would help addicts and society no end. You would be shocked and surprised at how many people would applaud and support a hard stance. Where i live, people openly walk around with a joint 'on the go'. My advice, get hard, very hard and watch society improve. p.s. I knew a bloke, who struggled with terrible self control, it went from drink to drugs to self pity, it got worse and worse and in the end he got so drunk and high, he was killed by a train. All society ever did was make excuses for him and now he's dead.

[Vipa]

That was very sad... It's easy to be judgemental and self righteous... the vast majority of these people are victims of parents who weren't there for them... I don't know what the answer is but they deserve our support and sympathy rather than vilification...

[karpman]

 

That's why I posted it up mate, that 1 woman on the documentary started taking drugs because her mother prostituted her out at like age 8

Exactly sterilise them and start to break the cycle.

 

Karpman

[Beardo]

might as well do the same for alcoholics whilst we're at it eh? after all it's just a drug addiction? why stop there.... how about smokers?

[karpman]

might as well do the same for alcoholics whilst we're at it eh? after all it's just a drug addiction? why stop there.... how about smokers?

Not very often people get stabbed for a packet of smokes. Alcoholics have a chance at change. These guys very rarely come clean, there openly breaking the law on tv and there just filthy.

 

Am I blaming them no. Should they be allowed to bring heroin dependant children into the world no. Are they capable of looking after children no. But they get high and screw, spread disease and in one way or another are serious risk to other people's health and well being.

 

Not to mention its the tax payer that support there habit. And some become heroin addicts out of choice like the fella who started when he was 18 he knew the consequences and went ahead and jacked up anyway.

 

Karpman

[TIGHTCHOKE]

might as well do the same for alcoholics whilst we're at it eh? after all it's just a drug addiction? why stop there.... how about smokers?

 

 

Good idea, when are you standing for election?

[overandunder2012]

Not very often people get stabbed for a packet of smokes. Alcoholics have a chance at change. These guys very rarely come clean, there openly breaking the law on tv and there just filthy.

 

Am I blaming them no. Should they be allowed to bring heroin dependant children into the world no. Are they capable of looking after children no. But they get high and screw, spread disease and in one way or another are serious risk to other people's health and well being.

 

Not to mention its the tax payer that support there habit. And some become heroin addicts out of choice like the fella who started when he was 18 he knew the consequences and went ahead and jacked up anyway.

 

Karpman

alcoholics are as bad if not worse than drug addicts i dont see any difference at all except ones taxed.

[karpman]

alcoholics are as bad if not worse than drug addicts i dont see any difference at all except ones taxed.

My cousin is a smack head has been for many years popped out about 7 sprats and had a few abortions. All the kids had to go into care and be re homed at some point or another.

 

My mother slipped into alchaholisim when she struggled to cope with the loss of my father I was 14 at the time and soon become some form of carer for her. She is better know all though she has the odd bender. She works is great nan to my kids and is no burden on society.

 

Heroin and alcohol seem to come hand in hand and can't see anything these people have to offer society or there future siblings of which they seem to create a great many.

 

Karlman

[overandunder2012]

some good points sorry about your mum and cousin but an old mate of mine had an alcoholic wife several stints in hospital 3 stints in rehab (about 70k to the tax payer at the time) never had a job dead by 36 i really dont see the difference both are serious addictions they just tax one of them

Edited June 29, 2013 by overandunder2012

[Bleeh]

 

alcoholics are as bad if not worse than drug addicts i dont see any difference at all except ones taxed.

And the other should be too.

 

I know it sounds odd, but people will do drugs, go to parts of the East with the death penalty for drug related crimes, they are still rampant; prohibition of any addictive substance has never worked.

 

The only sensible answer in my mind is to make hard drugs available through the NHS, perhaps softer drugs commercially, exactly how doesn't matter but probably through a board of Doctors and physiologists and then on prescription, but only very small amounts so you've got to keep coming back, facing the board. It's a funny thing but no one who is addicted wants to be addicted.

 

The advantages of this are multiple:

 

- There will always be money for drugs, this way the suppliers are regulated, pay taxes, there employees pay taxes. You've got no more illegal smuggling and the substances. We'd all rather the money people spend on drugs go go towards schools rather than gang related misery

 

- Police/Customs saving: Less drugs coming into the country illegally, less time spent chasing drugs gangs, less drug related crime. Police can spend more time doing stuff that's worth while rather than spending £50,000 worth of the tax payers money to chase down a couple of teenagers with a 1oz of weed.

 

-Frankly a better alternative to alcohol: You ever seen someone smoke a spliff then glass his mate, start a fight and vomit all over a policeman? - no? what about escasty? ever

 

-Control of quality: Related to the above. The thing about drugs is that there is a massive difference between small and large does in one go. You would enjoy a couple of beers in the sunshine but you wouldn't down half a bottle of vodka in one go. Once prohibition came in the states in the 1920's, no one produced beer, it was a waste of time when you could make Moonshine and other horrible 90% volume boozes which either made you go blind or killed. I think the same with Cannabis, there's a lot of difference between something that gives you the munchies and makes you giggle and full blown "can't move let alone think" skunk.

 

- Education is the answer: You want less people doing drugs? the answer is education, always. You can go all American and just straight ban people from doing things, but it's no coincidence that the fact that the westen countries with the most liberal sex and drug laws also have the lowest rates or teenage pregnancy and drug issues. There is a good reason why with added education the rate of young people smoking has plummeted.

- The Human factor: Frankly drug cartles and horrible to people, they shouldn't hold the power they do. Take away the money and they'll fail overnight.

Edited June 29, 2013 by Bleeh

[ack-ack]

And the other should be too.

 

I know it sounds odd, but people will do drugs, go to parts of the East with the death penalty for drug related crimes, they are still rampant; prohibition of any addictive substance has never worked.

 

The only sensible answer in my mind is to make hard drugs available through the NHS, perhaps softer drugs commercially, exactly how doesn't matter but probably through a board of Doctors and physiologists and then on prescription, but only very small amounts so you've got to keep coming back, facing the board. It's a funny thing but no one who is addicted wants to be addicted.

 

The advantages of this are multiple:

 

- There will always be money for drugs, this way the suppliers are regulated, pay taxes, there employees pay taxes. You've got no more illegal smuggling and the substances. We'd all rather the money people spend on drugs go go towards schools rather than gang related misery

 

- Police/Customs saving: Less drugs coming into the country illegally, less time spent chasing drugs gangs, less drug related crime. Police can spend more time doing stuff that's worth while rather than spending £50,000 worth of the tax payers money to chase down a couple of teenagers with a 1oz of weed.

 

-Frankly a better alternative to alcohol: You ever seen someone smoke a spliff then glass his mate, start a fight and vomit all over a policeman? - no? what about escasty? ever

 

-Control of quality: Related to the above. The thing about drugs is that there is a massive difference between small and large does in one go. You would enjoy a couple of beers in the sunshine but you wouldn't down half a bottle of vodka in one go. Once prohibition came in the states in the 1920's, no one produced beer, it was a waste of time when you could make Moonshine and other horrible 90% volume boozes which either made you go blind or killed. I think the same with Cannabis, there's a lot of difference between something that gives you the munchies and makes you giggle and full blown "can't move let alone think" skunk.

 

- Education is the answer: You want less people doing drugs? the answer is education, always. You can go all American and just straight ban people from doing things, but it's no coincidence that the fact that the westen countries with the most liberal sex and drug laws also have the lowest rates or teenage pregnancy and drug issues. There is a good reason why with added education the rate of young people smoking has plummeted.

- The Human factor: Frankly drug cartles and horrible to people, they shouldn't hold the power they do. Take away the money and they'll fail overnight.

Some good points there, it makes sense but i'm still uncomfortable with the notion.

[overandunder2012]

id tax it nobodys going to stop because they have to get it from a shop instead of a criminal and its taxed. i dont think anyone will ever stop drug use, to many people want to do it so why not treat it like tobacco and alcohol and improve the countries finances. the "war on drugs" was lost a long time ago so time to move on and find new ways to deal with the problems

Edited June 29, 2013 by overandunder2012

[secretagentmole]

As for the "nobody has ever smoked a spliff and glassed a mate" line, in the Donovan song, Sunny Goodge Street, there is a line about a violent hash smoker. It is known that cannabis can create psychotic episodes, just like alcohol!

[Livefast123]

The problem is whether it is Government supplied or bought on the streets, the addicts will still thieve, commit burglaries and rob people to fund their purchase.

[overandunder2012]

The problem is whether it is Government supplied or bought on the streets, the addicts will still thieve, commit burglaries and rob people to fund their purchase.

nothing thats not happening now but at least the cost of policing can be subsidized from the massive amount of drug tax revenue the government will get so they can afford more police and prisons, tax = improvements to the countries finaces not to tax = drain on society's pocket. if nothing else you'd get the benefit budget returned

Edited June 29, 2013 by overandunder2012