Gunnerbob Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 No sympathy....they are a burden on society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 some good points sorry about your mum and cousin but an old mate of mine had an alcoholic wife several stints in hospital 3 stints in rehab (about 70k to the tax payer at the time) never had a job dead by 36 i really dont see the difference both are serious addictions they just tax one of themCheers have no contact with my cousin nowadays. Does have a habit excuse the pun of turning up every couple of years usually for cash. My mother was failed by the health system she attended a the gp's many times with depression before turning to the bottle. My cousin stole many things from my gran over the years from trivial stuff from a pint of milk to money and jewellery. Pushed my gran over once leaving the house. Police were called horrible mess all round. Heroin is a waste of a good life and am of the opinion than once you start there is little or no helping you. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 let's hope for your sake that you never have a child that becomes an addict then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 let's hope for your sake that you never have a child that becomes an addict then Yeah here's hoping. My parents moved me out the town "Leicester" to the country many moons ago were drugs are less prominent. If my kids fall into the trap I would prefer they were sterised instead of popping kids out like there shelling peas. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 This is just another part of the jigsaw called 'the country is fu%d. If I had done anything like this as a kid my dad would have killed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 its a difficult topic thats for sure im sure many of us have friends relations with problems some we may not even know about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Could only watch 6 minutes :( horrible drug. Unfortunately the mould will never be broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshiretaxidermy Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Junkies, the first step on the zombie evolution ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) That was very sad... It's easy to be judgemental and self righteous... the vast majority of these people are victims of parents who weren't there for them... I don't know what the answer is but they deserve our support and sympathy rather than vilification... Your right,my wife's sisters son is off his head on heroin, his parents were and are there for him, they could not and can not stop him destroying himself, if you could see his mother cry the self righteous might show some more compassion, but anyone can be ded ard on a keyboard he started with a supposedly harmless lets legalise it bit of weed,now his life is wrecked and it probably wont be a long one either, nice kid lost to an evil world, Oh and I wonder how many here who cant get off the fags condemn a heroin addict as a loser and say hard luck its self inflicted whilst waiting for someone to bale them out when lung cancer kicks in eh! two faced numpties. KW Edited June 29, 2013 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 People who smoke or drink don't normally rob or steal to feed an illegal habit plus many smokers and drinkers still hold down jobs Those in the video are nothing more than scum who will just breed more scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyD Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) The problem is whether it is Government supplied or bought on the streets, the addicts will still thieve, commit burglaries and rob people to fund their purchase. Legally available drugs would be cheaper, and could be made available on prescription. The reason very few people commit robberies to fund cigarette and alcohol addiction is not the moral superiority of these addicts it's the relatively low price of cigarettes and alcohol. Edited June 29, 2013 by SneakyD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Legally available drugs would be cheaper, and could be made available on perception. The reason very few people commit robberies to fund cigarette and alcohol addiction is not the moral superiority of these addicts it's the relatively low price of cigarettes and alcohol. Yup.. legalisation would cut crime dramatically over night! it would also reduce the cost to the tax payer when the NHS has to step in and pick up the pieces of O/D and dirty needles etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Legally available drugs would be cheaper, and could be made available on perception. The reason very few people commit robberies to fund cigarette and alcohol addiction is not the moral superiority of these addicts it's the relatively low price of cigarettes and alcohol. very perceptive of you :lol: KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Yup.. legalisation would cut crime dramatically over night! it would also reduce the cost to the tax payer when the NHS has to step in and pick up the pieces of O/D and dirty needles etc! Great why not just give them enough to kill themselves in one quick go eh! how much does legalised alcohol or baccy save the NHS then answers on a bigoted postcard please. Oh I forgot everyone who smokes and drinks pays tax, or maybe we can bash those on benefit as well the one and only answer is to stop drugs getting into the country, easy done but not really suiting everyone? so lets kick to bits the addict till he tells you were he got his fix, kick to bits the supplier to the addict, when he tells kick to bits who supplied him,then kick to bits the next up etc etc, ooh er it starts to get hard, at the top , politicians police big buisiness start to come into play so the demand to find out stops, so lets simply go back round and just blame the poor kid who's life is wrecked. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) many people have a rough start but they choose to do great things with there life.i'm aware of to many house break ins etc ,i used to work in a shop in a rough area and druggies just thought it was there right to nick and stiff everyone just so they can get that next fix.noy a shred of sympathy from me.sorry Edited June 29, 2013 by zx10mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Great why not just give them enough to kill themselves in one quick go eh! how much does legalised alcohol or baccy save the NHS then answers on a bigoted postcard please. Oh I forgot everyone who smokes and drinks pays tax, or maybe we can bash those on benefit as well the one and only answer is to stop drugs getting into the country, easy done but not really suiting everyone? so lets kick to bits the addict till he tells you were he got his fix, kick to bits the supplier to the addict, when he tells kick to bits who supplied him,then kick to bits the next up etc etc, ooh er it starts to get hard, at the top , politicians police big buisiness start to come into play so the demand to find out stops, so lets simply go back round and just blame the poor kid who's life is wrecked. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 kdubya I cant tell when you are being serious or sarcastic in your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyD Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 very perceptive of you :lol: KW good catch could have been a worse auto correction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 kdubya I cant tell when you are being serious or sarcastic in your posts that maybe the point. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnerbob Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Great why not just give them enough to kill themselves in one quick go eh! how much does legalised alcohol or baccy save the NHS then answers on a bigoted postcard please. Oh I forgot everyone who smokes and drinks pays tax, or maybe we can bash those on benefit as well the one and only answer is to stop drugs getting into the country, easy done but not really suiting everyone? so lets kick to bits the addict till he tells you were he got his fix, kick to bits the supplier to the addict, when he tells kick to bits who supplied him,then kick to bits the next up etc etc, ooh er it starts to get hard, at the top , politicians police big buisiness start to come into play so the demand to find out stops, so lets simply go back round and just blame the poor kid who's life is wrecked. KW Weak willed and not worth spending time and money on...if they didn't use the stuff the pushers would not have a market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Weak willed and not worth spending time and money on...if they didn't use the stuff the pushers would not have a market yeah easy quote that, proud are we? KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 I was told some time ago that a " fix " of heroin in its syringe and vac packed for sale in Boots, would cost less than one pound to produce, legalising drugs IMHO would go some way to solving the problem, albeit in a few generations, It would cut out suppliers pushers etc. as the supply at source would be bought legally by producers. savings on Police time and prisons would be massive allowing treatment for addicts. The present system is like prohibition in the USA, it just drives the problem underground, I think that the thieving would stop as the addict would be treated as alcoholics are today and would be supplied through benefits with his fixes. having spent 30yrs locking them up, I can say that prison doesn`t cure them and it`s time to try something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 If we made heroin legal would we just not have more smack heads. More folks with huge cists on there arms and more problems. Cheap drugs is not an answer its only 10 quid a wrap as it is. A country were it is ok to do heroin is not a place I would like to live, and do you honestly think these people give a stuff about clean needles aids or anything else for that matter. They sacrificed there soles the first time they stuck that **** in there arms. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Whatever you say about drugs (and what can you say?) alcohol is ten times worse and ruins ten times as many lives and families and they sell it in Sainsburys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 (edited) Whatever you say about drugs (and what can you say?) alcohol is ten times worse and ruins ten times as many lives and families and they sell it in Sainsburys. very true the death figures bear this out but there will always be those that think because booze is legal its a respectable adiction Edited June 29, 2013 by overandunder2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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