chefy Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 is a silencer really needed on a springer does it make that much difference i have a springer without one and just wondered if it was worth buying one thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 My opinion no not really some think it does , there's more sound coming from the action than from the barrel , it does help as a cocking aid and could help reduce muzzle flip slightly , On a pcp they make a huge difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deputy dog Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 PCP huge difference. SPRINGER waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 My hw99s was as quiet as a mouse with one in, I couldn't tell when firing as I heard the spring etc moving but from 10 yards you couldn't really hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee. Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) They do work but you would notice a much better sound reduction by getting the springer tuned to decrease the sound of the internals. Edited September 27, 2013 by Gee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Pelt Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 12ft lb springer, not really necessary but can improve cosmetic appeal, fac springer then yes can help to moderate a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 I understood that they reduced the muzzle report down range, avoiding scaring the prey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garden gun Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 We shoot Gamos and the magnum does not have a moderator, but Mrs gg's Whisper X does have a built in moderator. On occasion you can get a second shot in with the Whisper as the down range noise is cut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't go as far as saying its a total waste of time. It depends on how loud your internals are. I have a HW95K and the internals are actually very quiet on it. The muzzle does make a noticeable crack which is eliminated when I have the HW moderator fitted. Last time I was down Petes farm, someone else near me actually commented on how quiet it was for a springer. Ideally if you could borrow one from a friend/fellow shooter to try then you can find out and save some money if you aren't happy with the difference. -Andrew P.s. Also agree with the comment above...PCP is a much bigger difference. Without a mod, some PCPs are like a shotgun going off.... Edited September 30, 2013 by Theskyfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital Bee Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 As stated, the moderator will reduce the report, but not the sound of the mechanism. I have an Armex backdraft fitted to a tuned xs19. 5 mtrs infront (not directly in front!) of the muzzle the report is down to a "phut", whilst I still hear the mechanism (which is pretty muted, post tuning). As stated, they could possibly get you a second shot in some circumstances (one's where you can break the barrel and reload without being seen!) or if plinking in the garden, though a silenced pcp would probably be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 I have just tried my HW95K and my BSA Lightning gas ram , with and without silencers, in my back yard which has walls on either side 6ft high, so the noise can only go up, just to see (well hear).! Yes , they do make a considerable difference in these circumstances. Not much at the gun, but I should imagine dissipating across a field would be the same as the walls if you were a bunny. But,,,,, nowhere near as quiet as my pcp's which are all fitted with HW100 Silencers. Also shooting with any wind blowing towards you from your quarries direction will also help significantly. But you probably know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefy Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 thanks people very good advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveieP Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 A silencer does make a difference to the muzzle report irrespective of the source of the charge of gas (pcp, spring or Co2) it makes no difference to the noise arising from the action on a spring gun which is right next to the shooters ear. What does make a difference to the noise of the action is installing a tune kit to elimenate much of the twang, noise and vibration. The addition of a stainless shim piston sleeve helps a lot becauseit reduces lateral movement of the spring and so damps any resonation of the spring in conjunction with a close fitting spring guide. To quieten a springer down, and make it more pleasant to shoot in the process, needs both a tune and a silencer. why wouldn't a silencer work on a spring gun? It's like saying the silencer on a car works for petrol engines but not on a diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 A silencer does make a difference to the muzzle report irrespective of the source of the charge of gas (pcp, spring or Co2) it makes no difference to the noise arising from the action on a spring gun which is right next to the shooters ear. What does make a difference to the noise of the action is installing a tune kit to elimenate much of the twang, noise and vibration. The addition of a stainless shim piston sleeve helps a lot becauseit reduces lateral movement of the spring and so damps any resonation of the spring in conjunction with a close fitting spring guide. To quieten a springer down, and make it more pleasant to shoot in the process, needs both a tune and a silencer. why wouldn't a silencer work on a spring gun? It's like saying the silencer on a car works for petrol engines but not on a diesel Because of the manner the air is delivered , the report from a un modded pcp is much greater than it is from a springer even thou they both producing the same fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Its simple, it works. That's it. It works. Better on a pcp but just as well on a Springer. The firer of a Springer will heard spring noise etc. 10ft away you won't and its almost silent . thats my experience and I've had plenty of silenced springers. For a few quid its worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 My tuned B20 springer let out a decent crack on it's preferred lightweight Falcon pellets and was used mainly for hunting, so I decided to fit a slip on silencer. This really did mute the report but left the gun overly long (6" longer) and needed the silencer removed to fit back in it's bag each day and had become rather awkward in hides etc. I had planned to carbine the barrel to 12" anyway so this was the incentive I needed and set about it. Job done and silencer fitted I was a little disappointed that the aditional noise from the shortened barrel needed the silencer fitted to equal about the same noise as the original unsilenced gun..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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