delburt0 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Hiya all I am in the process of looking to buy a new hmr I have seen the browning t bolt popping up and only slightly dearer than the cz I'll make it clear from the start I am a fan of cz in my opinion they are excellent, but what are the pros and cons comparing the new cz hmr to the browning t bolt hmr.... I have owned them both ,,cz in several calibre's including hmr, but only 22/250 and .22 in browning.. Edited October 26, 2013 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 I have a T bolt Hmr - I chose it as a second Hmr to fit a Pulsar N750 to as it has a straight pull action & I had heard a lot of comments regarding bolts fouling the N550's & N750's. It accounted for over 400 rabbits & quite a few Foxes last winter. I like the rotary magazines & can reload them easily in the dark. It's also very light (synthetic stock) I walk miles at night with it no problem. The trigger is the only issue but I have learned to live with it - it's adjusted as light as it will go but it isn't as crisp as the trigger on my CZ 452 Hmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 My 452 HMR couldn't be faulted after I shot enough to break in the trigger correctly, either should shoot about as good but I feel the CZ is better built from better materials and a far tougher design. The new 455 is also a magnum rimfire action and parts will be available for the next 100yrs I recon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I had to make this choice when i bought my hmr, i went for the CZ purely as there was the model i wanted in my local shop, but the t bolt is a good rifle. You wont go wrong with either, for the money CZ's are brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 CZ is great value for the money I have 2 a 455 & a 600. Long lasting and good support for spares and repairs. Its up to you but you will not go wrong with a CZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Cz snob here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 CZ...you will never need anything more than a CZ for field work. Ok, nothing intrinsically wrong with the Browning, they are having a go and moving the goalposts, innovation/progress is essential so well done for that, but they haven't quite got there yet, I'm happy to let someone else do the R&D for them while I stick with the CZ. CZ works, and if by some strange event it doesn't, they tend to be easy to fix/get parts for...Browning are NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snipers eye Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 cz,for use in field,well built,tough guns very accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Going to get a 452 style if I ever get a day off, I have been told that silhouettes are been discontinued And that they have pitting problems,, I had a sillohette for around 7 yrs no probs with no sign of rust.. Got a style 16" + mod waiting for £435.00 so not too bad , Edited October 27, 2013 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon1979 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 hi there, i had a t bolt, then swap to a cz452. both good rifles, i didnt get on to well with the bolt, on the t bolt. If you get a cz, remember that the varmint barrel is alot heavier atb si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 hi there, i had a t bolt, then swap to a cz452. both good rifles, i didnt get on to well with the bolt, on the t bolt. If you get a cz, remember that the varmint barrel is alot heavier atb si I've had one before sold it on here last yr and regretted ever since :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Going to get a 452 style if I ever get a day off, I have been told that silhouettes are been discontinued And that they have pitting problems,, I had a sillohette for around 7 yrs no probs with no sign of rust.. Got a style 16" + mod waiting for £435.00 so not too bad , Believe NOTHING you hear and only half of what you see! The Silhouette is the biggest selling model in the UK and as the barrel is the same as that fitted to around half of the CZ range it seems rather odd it should just be the Silhouette effected with pitting! Edited October 28, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 hi there, i had a t bolt, then swap to a cz452. both good rifles, i didnt get on to well with the bolt, on the t bolt. If you get a cz, remember that the varmint barrel is alot heavier atb si It makes no matter as you buy it in the short barrel for a moderator, its still lighter than you average medium action sporter in a cf and nobody complains about those. They are not heavy and a little weight can be steadier in the hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It makes no matter as you buy it in the short barrel for a moderator, its still lighter than you average medium action sporter in a cf and nobody complains about those. They are not heavy and a little weight can be steadier in the hold That's daft! ...and they are heavy, in comparison with the lighter models! I like light rifles, so I buy light rifles, I don't buy a heavy rimfire because it's a similar weight to my centrefires, I still buy a light rimfire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Believe NOTHING you hear and only half of what you see! The Silhouette is the biggest selling model in the UK and as the barrel is the same as that fitted to around half of the CZ range it seems rather odd it should just be the Silhouette effected with pitting! they where my thoughts he probably only said it as he didn't have any in stock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 they where my thoughts he probably only said it as he didn't have any in stock... ..that was going to be the next line in my original reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I have a T bolt Hmr - I chose it as a second Hmr to fit a Pulsar N750 to as it has a straight pull action & I had heard a lot of comments regarding bolts fouling the N550's & N750's. It accounted for over 400 rabbits & quite a few Foxes last winter. I like the rotary magazines & can reload them easily in the dark. It's also very light (synthetic stock) I walk miles at night with it no problem. The trigger is the only issue but I have learned to live with it - it's adjusted as light as it will go but it isn't as crisp as the trigger on my CZ 452 Hmr Unless there's something that I've missed and which doesn't apply to my set-up, the only way a bolt can foul on a N550/750 is if the remote control cable is attached. This has (or had if the makers have actually listened) an elbow connection which throws the cable vertically downwards. Eventually my impatience overcame my concern for the warranty and I slackened off the locknut and rotated the connector 90 degrees clockwise and re-tightened. No more problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenj Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 CZ452 varmint 16 inch heavy weight barrel. Can't fault it now that I'm using Hornadys again. Dead accurate, literally. No split cases with the latest 150 rounds through it, unlike the Remmingtons. I know they are all made at the same factory, but go figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) ..that was going to be the next line in my original reply just torn between the silhoete or the nickel plated style :( Edited October 28, 2013 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 just torn between the silhoete or the nickel plated style :( I have the Silhouette, my lad loves it, but when he came to buy his own he wanted the Style, couldn't bring himself to get the same gun as his Dad! In the 5 years since this happened, there has been no noticeable difference in the accuracy, reliability or performance of either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 It makes no matter as you buy it in the short barrel for a moderator, its still lighter than you average medium action sporter in a cf and nobody complains about those. They are not heavy and a little weight can be steadier in the hold In further reference to this post my old type 452 varmint fitted with a steel body 6x42 S+bender weighs in at just 8lb, My stalking rifle a Sako 75 hunter based gun (ie sporter barrel and sporter stock) Medium type 3 action in a lighter than walnut Mc Millan composite stock and a 3-12 x 50 ali body S+ Bender weighs in at 13lb without a moderator. The New 455 with its slightly heavier steel action and slightly thicker barrel via taper will up the weight of the later gun slightly . However if you find 8lb too much in a rifle you need to consider taking life easy in an armchair someplace with a nice blanket near the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.