dazz Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 im using Remington 17 gr accutip boat tail.only using them as I got them thrown in when I bought my rifle of the dealer.im getting a 2p size group at around 100 yds with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fendrover90 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Same as but hornady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennym Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Same as but hornady same but 5 pence or clover leaf,......improved after a trigger spring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Same as but hornady he said 2p chris not 2 foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Same 2p with Hornady 17g v max shooting on bipod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 snap with hornady 17g although ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory I recently had some remingtons and they were real pigs, out of one box I had at least half a dozen hang fires and one squib round that got stuck an inch up the barrel from the breach now gone back to hornady and no problems weird........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) snap with hornady 17g although ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory I recently had some remingtons and they were real pigs, out of one box I had at least half a dozen hang fires and one squib round that got stuck an inch up the barrel from the breach now gone back to hornady and no problems weird........ Flippen ek, why does this myth persist, they are not! Do some research, and also think about what you just said... ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory... really, the world production of HMR ALL comes out of the same factory?! Edited October 28, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 its pot luck they all make good and bad batches exept winchester who only make batches so bad they should be done for animal cruelty and gaining money by deception because i have never had good winchesters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 its pot luck they all make good and bad batches exept winchester who only make batches so bad they should be done for animal cruelty and gaining money by deception because i have never had good winchesters Spot on Mike I had a box that were really good, so went back and bought another three from the same batch. One box was dire, the other two had moments of inspiration. Glad there pretty much all gone now Remingtons for me, nice close groups. The last sunny evening we had down here, I was trying out Strelok info and was shooting at 160yds with a very slight breeze. Just about 1.5" groups I would like to try Hornadays, but no one round here stocks them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Flippen ek, why does this myth persist, they are not! Do some research, and also think about what you just said... ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory... really, the world production of HMR ALL comes out of the same factory?! do some research yourself dekers, this li8nk goes to .17 hmr forum with a direct letter/ quote from someone at CCI which states quite clearly that they make all the ammo and package it differently for different companies http://17hmr.net/index.php?topic=4791.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 I don't suppose someone working for CCI would make this up would they??? stop trying to mug people off dekers, it makes you look very childish, im quoting what I have read with evidence from ammunition company CCI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) I don't suppose someone working for CCI would make this up would they??? stop trying to mug people off dekers, it makes you look very childish, im quoting what I have read with evidence from ammunition company CCI. Not very nice Irrespective of the manufacturing plant issue, the ammo is evidently different in the specification otherwise there wouldn't be the "my barrel likes" scenario. Unless of course, our rifles are also being childish Edited October 28, 2013 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masmiffy Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Flippen ek, why does this myth persist, they are not! Do some research, and also think about what you just said... ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory... really, the world production of HMR ALL comes out of the same factory?! I had a problem with some Hornaday ammo and had to speak to Edgar Brothers regarding it. I asked them about the 'myth' and was told all HMR ammo is LOADED at the CCI factory. Mind you seem to remember after a problem there some time back one ammo supplier was thinking of loading their own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) In reply to the OP's question. I use CCI 20g Gamepoints and Hornady Vmax 17g ballistic tips. Oh and when you compare the two they perform differently in my gun. Edited October 28, 2013 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) I don't suppose someone working for CCI would make this up would they??? stop trying to mug people off dekers, it makes you look very childish, im quoting what I have read with evidence from ammunition company CCI. That email was several years ago (2009 at least), and it does NOT cover all the makes anyway! CCI, Federal, Winchester, Remington and Hornady all loaded here at CCI in Lewiston, Idaho with a V-max bullet are identical, with the exception of tip color. Manufactured on the same equip, to the same ballistic specs, using the same components other than color of the tip of the bullets. Obviously the shellcase 'head stamp' and packaging would be different on the various products. Linda Olin CCI/Speer Technical Services 2299 Snake River Ave. Lewiston, ID 83501 I don't have to make people look like mugs, plenty do it all by themselves quoting emails over 4 years old! Wikipedia today! A growing number of companies offer .17 HMR ammunition. CCI ammunition loads all of the .17 HMR ammunition for the CCI, Federal Cartridge and Remington brands. However, the ammunition is loaded with different bullets to different specifications. Ammunition is also available from Winchester, PMC and Sellior & Bellot I believe I am correct in saying Federal also now deal with their own HMR at their own plant in Anoka Minnesota! Don't believe me...... go and ask Linda now! Edited October 28, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 http://17hmr.net/index.php?topic=6416.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 shout as loud as you like dekers, it must make you right lol my god some people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) http://17hmr.net/index.php?topic=6416.0 Is that your attempt at an apology seeing as #8 confirms what I said! Your quote....... ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory......... Tell you what, you email Linda at CCI and ask her if they make ALL the HMR in ONE factory, then post her dated reply and put me in my place! If she says they make the world supply of HMR in one factory I will apologise to you! Edited October 28, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 to be quite honest I don't care who makes them but if you are so sure that you and WIKI are right and lets face it wiki have never been wrong. then so be it, why should I believe a post by you more than I believe a post by someone else, and quite obviously there is still some confusion as the many posts on many threads would confirm. read and quote all of the posts on the link I added not just the ones that suit you you really are boring me now dekers so if you have any further insults to me I suggest you pm them direct to me and we can sort something out Re: 17 HMR ammo« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 02:14:22 AM » Quote Nobody except for CCI anymore. S & B made it for a short time with the Hornady bullet. Only differences in CCI assembled ammo are the bullets which are all made by Hornady. the 4 different bullets 17 vmax, 17 TNT (HP), 20 HP, and 20 FMJ. End of story. Eley was making some 17 M2 but I've heard they quit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 to be quite honest I don't care who makes them but if you are so sure that you and WIKI are right and lets face it wiki have never been wrong. then so be it, why should I believe a post by you more than I believe a post by someone else, and quite obviously there is still some confusion as the many posts on many threads would confirm. read and quote all of the posts on the link I added not just the ones that suit you you really are boring me now dekers so if you have any further insults to me I suggest you pm them direct to me and we can sort something out Re: 17 HMR ammo« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2011, 02:14:22 AM » Quote Nobody except for CCI anymore. S & B made it for a short time with the Hornady bullet. Only differences in CCI assembled ammo are the bullets which are all made by Hornady. the 4 different bullets 17 vmax, 17 TNT (HP), 20 HP, and 20 FMJ. End of story. Eley was making some 17 M2 but I've heard they quit too. So, its ok for you to be selective in your quotes but not me hey, I offered you a way out, I have not said Wiki is right, but I happen you know you are wrong, but apparently you are not interested in the truth, kindly do not start on about insults, you are the one hurling them about. my #18 "Your quote....... ALL hmr ammo is made in the same factory......... Tell you what, you email Linda at CCI and ask her if they make ALL the HMR in ONE factory, then post her dated reply and put me in my place! If she says they make the world supply of HMR in one factory I will apologise to you!" Somehow I didn't think you would be interested in actually asking CCI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 sorry dekers to busy at the moment writing my wiki page about you being the font of all knowledge like I said pm me if you want, we can chat, ill even give you my number, as its very likely I already have yours http://www.gameandvermincontrol.co.uk/contact.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) I thought you may be to busy to contact CCI. Edited October 28, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 i have just picked up some cci 17grain tnt with the hollow tip anyone tried them??? colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 you are trying to prove im wrong so surely you should contact all the makers of hmr ammo and put it to bed once and for all. its the prosecutions job to determine guilt not the other way round. when you post your findings I will gladly hold my hands up and say you are correct. until then I suggest we don't hijack this thread any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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