Whitebridges Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) ....... Edited November 29, 2013 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I have to agree that the US seems to have gone .17 crazy - Savage were selling like hot cakes - Savage, I ask you. I have looked into it a bit and now know how to get an import licence. The US has an export agreement with the UK so no export licence required to ship from the US to here. Just need to add up all the costs, gun, transfer postage,any import duty/VAT etc to see if its worthwhile. I have checked and found new .17 H's for $640, thats £390. just need the import total costs to be less than £600 and i'll be in the black - this one is new and comes with special offer scope rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Fister, thanks for the confidence - the paperwork looks manageable - just a SIL self import licence, simple process to fill in and helpful responses. Export gunsellers in the US with full website details of how to place a specific order and arrange shipping. To be honest, its a CZ so I doubt CZ would ignore a reasonable complaint. How much to screwcut ? Save me looking for details. I stopped taking dares when I was out of primary schools but I will truthfully give all the details if it adds up for me. By the way, I retired early and just spend my days shooting, making high end bespoke woodwork, Christmas decorations now and anything else that takes my fancy - this may yet do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 Listen up CZ have a shop you can even call and collect from see the web. The USA are n excepted country as far as proof goes, not sure how that effects a non American product being then exported though. If your prepared to do the trip, bring back plenty .22 / .17 hmr mags BTW I do know a private guy who imported a gun from the USA legally, it was delivered to our work and he unwrapped it there and showed it me (not my thing he was into that cowboy action shooting stuff) but he did think it was very worthwhile of the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz2202 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I looked into importing a cz a few months back. It would have saved me around £150-£180. But the screw cutting. Would have to be done here in the uk. I waited and I'm pleased I did as it's a fair bit of paperwork and hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) Cheers That's interesting, where on earth does quantity 25 come from, I've never owned a Hornet are the .22 in 25? ....and not quite outrageous, but not cheap...80p each! No doubt other manufacturers are sitting on the fence at the moment waiting to see what happens! I've had rws factory stuff in boxes of 20 and ppu in 25's and Winchester in boxes of 50 for my .22 hornet. Edited November 29, 2013 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I've had rws factory stuff in boxes of 20 and ppu in 25's and Winchester in boxes of 50 for my .22 hornet. Strange I get RWS in 25's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) Strange I get RWS in 25's Burgundy and black coloured box white writing, 46gr soft points and came in two rows of 10 each separated individually by white cardboard internally, I'll see if I can find an empty box I paid £26 for the last 60 he had in then got raped the next time £37.50 for 50 winchesters. Edit- think the dividing card was also burgundy. Link-http://rws-munition.de/en/hunting/products/rws-centerfire-rifle-cartridges.html#!0/19/38 Edited November 30, 2013 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) just do what i did and build a gun its more fun .17 ackley hornet......and the american market are mad for .17 cals they like them because of minimum pelt damage. ive done a lot of reading and learning for my ackley and its not a new caliber there....im currently buying 25 grain rem bullet heads £10 for 100 and using cci primer with 11.5 grain reloader 7 to very good results...well now i have my zeiss fitted that is. could not stabilise 25gr vmax for the life of me i think they were too long. yet to try 20gr vmax Edited November 30, 2013 by SPARKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 just do what i did and build a gun its more fun "fun" is that what you call it!? felt like banging my head against the wall when I tried it this year I don't think I'll be bothering again, I might have mine chambered in a different cal. when it needs a re-barrel but that's as far as I'll be going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 "fun" is that what you call it!? felt like banging my head against the wall when I tried it this year I don't think I'll be bothering again, I might have mine chambered in a different cal. when it needs a re-barrel but that's as far as I'll be going.The trick with this is either being able to do it all or knowing exactly what you want and telling the guy who is doing it. There is nothing custom unless you request it specifically. IMO it stacks quite well against the factory version cost if you buy or stand the donor action etc at the right money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldwanderer Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I knew exactly what I wanted and got it all squared away quickly enough but then began the broken promises, let downs, lack of appology and just plain lack of interest. The barrel was the worst part (until I moved it to someone who cared) but the stock was also a month behind schedule - the entire build took two months longer than I was told and I still had to finish the stock (which I knew about but it takes time obviously) Trouble was, that meant when I finally got to try the rifle, it was October as opposed to August which would've been a much nicer time to be developing a load and actually getting out after the foxes. Doesn't sound much but six months of chasing people up with their dismissive, uninterested attitude wasn't really how I hoped my summer would be spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Why so much fuss over this caliber if such a wait and cost? Surely there are many similar calibers out there that are available? Or just get something custom built? What does this offer over the .204? .223? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Why so much fuss over this caliber if such a wait and cost? Surely there are many similar calibers out there that are available? Or just get something custom built? What does this offer over the .204? .223? it is quieter and in leicester they wont grant anything over 17 cal for rabbit even 204 is considered a fox round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Why so much fuss over this caliber if such a wait and cost? Surely there are many similar calibers out there that are available? Or just get something custom built? What does this offer over the .204? .223? It offers no more or no less than any other caliber does. What it does offer though is another caliber to play with and that's never a bad thing. And It's no more costly than any other centerfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I snubbed the 17 hornet as I have a 22 but now I have gained a triple. I have no need for two 22 s so I may convert to the 17.... ... Maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 At least you will able to try before you buy amazed, see if you like it or not? Thank you mate a fantastic offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Made preliminary enquiries about importing one from US. No US Export licence needed - No import Licence needed as its a personal import and not commercial just heard this from the relevant Ministry. Rifle to be sent (to be confirmed) from US Supplier direct to local UK Border Force Office to hold until I arrive with my Firearms Licence with vacant slot. Duty not yet agreed but very little paperwork needed, mostly FAC. Anyone know how much a screw cut and proof is for a .17, roughly? So far its taken maybe 1 hour to establish these facts - confirmation awaited and then its checking the costs. So far its not at all difficult. It may eventually prove to be very simple. All credit to Revenue and Customs, very helpful online service and follow up. Will keep you updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Made preliminary enquiries about importing one from US. No US Export licence needed - No import Licence needed as its a personal import and not commercial just heard this from the relevant Ministry. Rifle to be sent (to be confirmed) from US Supplier direct to local UK Border Force Office to hold until I arrive with my Firearms Licence with vacant slot. Duty not yet agreed but very little paperwork needed, mostly FAC. Anyone know how much a screw cut and proof is for a .17, roughly? So far its taken maybe 1 hour to establish these facts - confirmation awaited and then its checking the costs. So far its not at all difficult. It may eventually prove to be very simple. All credit to Revenue and Customs, very helpful online service and follow up. Will keep you updated. very good for you, its time we stopped being bitten by the sharks. Its not like we get service worth anything from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 is this a CZ?YEP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Do you get 10,000 free air miles with it?Is that likely or necessary, didnt think they did that with parcels !? you still havent given me the cost of screw cutting and proofing its a cz 527 .17 sporting or possibly varmint barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Ok - I take the challenge, if it works out and I presume the clue is buy from the maker direct and I can get one proofed and screw-cut I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I don't think you get the joke, why not import it directly from Czech where it is made rather than send it to uncle sam and nearly all the way back? Costing up the screw cut and proofing all counts as your research time, you do the leg work to make the deal fair but I have left you a clue about proof. wouldnt you only need it proofing if you intended to sell it, similar to screwcutting barrels for mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I just got an invite to a do in Czech next week, maybe I will bring one back if Ryanair will fly it lol. Is this wise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I just got an invite to a do in Czech next week, maybe I will bring one back if Ryanair will fly it lol. Am looking for somthing to run as dedicated nv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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