Malik Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Nothing i didnt already know. Still, very informative video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 good vid,but the price difference isn,t worth bothering about,my choice will always be f/w from my local dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Another reason that I use fibre wad is that the shot is still in the plaswad for about the first 12-15yds so, at that range, it is efectively a 12g slug. This is not a problem on a clay shoot, unless it's a close bolting Rabbits stand, but when I'm Pigeon shooting and using trees as part of my cover, or close to a 'sitty tree' then a plaswad would mean I'm going to destroy any bird that settles. A fibre wad gives some spread to the shot straight out of the barrel so these birds are still edible. Edited December 8, 2013 by KFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 (edited) Another reason that I use fibre wad is that the shot is still in the plaswad for about the first 12-15yds so, at that range, it is efectively a 12g slug. This is not a problem on a clay shoot, unless it's a close bolting Rabbits stand, but when I'm Pigeon shooting and using trees as part of my cover, or close to a 'sitty tree' then a plaswad would mean I'm going to destroy any bird that settles. A fibre wad gives some spread to the shot straight out of the barrel so these birds are still edible. Sorry but that's simply not true. Plastic wads start to open pretty much as soon as they leave the barrel. Edited December 8, 2013 by poontang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Sorry but that's simply not true. Plastic wads start to open pretty much as soon as they leave the barrel. I think this video confirms what you say! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1if2QKHWmU4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Sorry but that's simply not true. Plastic wads start to open pretty much as soon as they leave the barrel. Try shooting a pattern plate from 12yds with a plastic wad and see what size hole it leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Try shooting a pattern plate from 12yds with a plastic wad and see what size hole it leaves. I don't need a pattern plate to tell me. I've shot enough skeet targets to know your assumption is wrong. Unless of course I'm breaking a lot of those birds with nothing more than a slug........in which case I'm a much better shot than I ever thought!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) I don't need a pattern plate to tell me. I've shot enough skeet targets to know your assumption is wrong. Unless of course I'm breaking a lot of those birds with nothing more than a slug........in which case I'm a much better shot than I ever thought!! Plastic wad falls away almost immediately and the pattern is certainly bigger than a slug within as little as 3-4 yards, at 12 yards it would be at least dinner plate size depending on choke - don't believe anyone who tells you there is no difference between Cylinder and Full at very short range. Edited December 10, 2013 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Plastic wad falls away almost immediately and the pattern is certainly bigger than a slug within as little as 3-4 yards, at 12 yards it would be at least dinner plate size depending on choke - don't believe anyone who tells you there is no difference between Cylinder and Full at very short range. crikey i thought i was fast but that camera man was seriously fast,.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 crikey i thought i was fast but that camera man was seriously fast,.. Ah the beauty of a 'pan and scan' high speed camera, probably a Phantom - in my line of work we get to play with all these toys, essentially how it works is it shoots a massive area but with enough detail that you can zoom into the image to follow the bit you want as if you had panned the camera. On a stunt job we used hemispheric high speed cameras which shoot half a sphere, you put them right near the action and then once you've checked it back you can follow individual pieces of debris or the fireball etc, it has changed the industry, back in the day you'd have a dozen cameras to make sure you got something and now three of these will get you more than enough and one person can operate them all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Ah the beauty of a 'pan and scan' high speed camera, probably a Phantom - in my line of work we get to play with all these toys, essentially how it works is it shoots a massive area but with enough detail that you can zoom into the image to follow the bit you want as if you had panned the camera. On a stunt job we used hemispheric high speed cameras which shoot half a sphere, you put them right near the action and then once you've checked it back you can follow individual pieces of debris or the fireball etc, it has changed the industry, back in the day you'd have a dozen cameras to make sure you got something and now three of these will get you more than enough and one person can operate them all Check out the SloMoGuys on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Tel Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 There is cartridge that uses a plastic wad that is degradable, " Armusa ", I know they are available in 12g- 32grs shot size 6, not sure of other sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AD Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Let's have a vid of a 12 yd test if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srspower Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 There is cartridge that uses a plastic wad that is degradable, " Armusa ", I know they are available in 12g- 32grs shot size 6, not sure of other sizes. Looking it up it's all in Spanish! Interesting if it's as good as regular plastic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 There is cartridge that uses a plastic wad that is degradable, " Armusa ", I know they are available in 12g- 32grs shot size 6, not sure of other sizes. Do you know if there available in England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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