The Croc Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Get you now the coal bunker size in the middle had me confused and all the decimal points. So basically half a bag and a dozen logs for 24 hours of heat and hot water. Figgy and that's a lot cheaper than what I was paying for the gas heating Edited January 20, 2014 by The Croc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Sprackles don't know if this might be of use to you, free delivery as well http://www.awparkercoalmerchants.co.uk/online-shop?utm_source=Google+BT&utm_medium=PPC&utm_term=homefire_smokeless_fuel (nothing to do with me by the way) get my stuff local Edited January 20, 2014 by The Croc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Try some firebrick reducers to save even more on coal. I use to years ago when I used solid fuel. Figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Try some firebrick reducers to save even more on coal. I use to years ago when I used solid fuel. Figgy will try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 they dont burn very well thou :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Luckyshot said, "Not all pallet wood as my 11kw burner runs solely on pallet wood, granted the pallets are all hard wood 4x3 and I've access to as much as I need. My fire is quite large and heats my whole bungalow so as you can imagine I get through a lot of pallet wood." Of course if its free and dry at the time you burn it then go for it. No point buying it though and their are hardwoods and hardwoods Balsa is in deed a hardwood! One things for sure I bet you don't get 11 kw out of that stove when burning anything but the very best seasoned woods and Brickets / coal. The room my 10kw ESSE is in is 63m2 and I have had the temperature up to 32 in the room centre - but only burning anthracite at full glow! I no longer use this it gets too hot for the appliance but use Excel smokeless, burns to ash overnight and a reasonable one time fill of 5-7 kg will burn from 8am till 8pm approx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sprackles don't know if this might be of use to you, free delivery as well http://www.awparkercoalmerchants.co.uk/online-shop?utm_source=Google+BT&utm_medium=PPC&utm_term=homefire_smokeless_fuel (nothing to do with me by the way) get my stuff local Cheers..........I have had a look at his prices and the stuff I use is £1.20 per bag cheaper....only problem is I have to buy a tonne which comes on a pallet and I live in a terraced house with a small front garden. It will be a long job ferrying it all around the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 My 8kw is linked to an equaliser and from cold rads takes a stack of sticks, half a pan of coal and an ash log or two to heat the house, couple more logs and sometimes a splash of coal if it runs low to keep the house hot all evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_in_Devon Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I have a Multifuel stove that does the Central heating and hot water, had it fitted 2 1/2 years ago (changed from gas, to dear!! cut my winter heating bill by nearly half) Admittedly, I get my logs for a very reasonable price I have just worked out, (for this year anyway) that I have used since mid Sept, 3 cube of hardwood logs and 26 x 20 kg bags of smokeless coal It roughly equates to .47 (thereabouts, coal bunker holds 12 bags) of a bag a coal and 12 logs a day HETAS guy fitted mine, (thankfully) and he had fun Got one of these http://www.charnwood.com/range/stove/slx-45.aspx Where do you get your logs from? I was buying mine in at 8m length and buying buy the ton, until the guy started taking the **** and it was not a ton he was delivering. Looking for somewhere to buy in wood again, as running low for this winter and looking for next winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 My bills are also similar, never had my central heating on for 2 years. My electric and gas for the last 3 months was £58 but they are now charging a standard daily charge on the gas so that bill will be going up. You might want to consider changing your gas / elec supplier. Even if the costs per unit used are higher, with your level of usage you'd do better with a supplier that doesn't charge a daily charge... Have a look at uswitch.com or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Luckyshot said, "Not all pallet wood as my 11kw burner runs solely on pallet wood, granted the pallets are all hard wood 4x3 and I've access to as much as I need. My fire is quite large and heats my whole bungalow so as you can imagine I get through a lot of pallet wood." Of course if its free and dry at the time you burn it then go for it. No point buying it though and their are hardwoods and hardwoods Balsa is in deed a hardwood! One things for sure I bet you don't get 11 kw out of that stove when burning anything but the very best seasoned woods and Brickets / coal. The room my 10kw ESSE is in is 63m2 and I have had the temperature up to 32 in the room centre - but only burning anthracite at full glow! I no longer use this it gets too hot for the appliance but use Excel smokeless, burns to ash overnight and a reasonable one time fill of 5-7 kg will burn from 8am till 8pm approx. The room my wood burner is in is only 8ft x 12ft so you can imagine the heat, I can get it upto 30+oc in the room no problem, infact when I first had it fitted I cracked all the plaster walls near the fire as it was that hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 You might want to consider changing your gas / elec supplier. Even if the costs per unit used are higher, with your level of usage you'd do better with a supplier that doesn't charge a daily charge... Have a look at uswitch.com or similar. Already checked on there they all seem to charge a standing charge now as customers like myself are no use to them as my gas bill for the last 18 months has been less than £25 all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 ******. Coop, or an "ethical" supplier? Having said that, I think Coop do still have a standing charge. Seems unfair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Already checked on there they all seem to charge a standing charge now as customers like myself are no use to them as my gas bill for the last 18 months has been less than £25 all in. we use abit more gas than that cos my shower runs straight off the boiler and we have a gas cooker and i have cut up about a tonne of hard wood skids from 2x2" upto 12x12" all free and burns like a good un Edited January 21, 2014 by pestcontrol1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) We don't have a chimney so will need the external s/s flue, is it absolutely necessary to use the double skinned/insulated flue or can i use the single pipe ? You can use a single skin flue if you want but only internally is recommended. But regular maintenance and sweeping is required to keep it free of condensated tar which it will be prone to. You will have to pay particular attention to insulate from combustible materials where passing through a floor or ceiling of course but products can be bought to deal with this. Double skin and insulated are best for new installations, but you could consider single at lower level and insulated at higher level where its needed, condensation of tar products occurs at the colder surfaces which as Heat rises is normally higher up the chimney. The flue will be hotter nearer the appliance of course thus limiting any condensation. The key to trouble free flues in both terms of Condensate and potential conflagration is regular ( 6 monthly ) sweeping. Many people don't associate soot and tar with anything other than a traditional chimney stack and open coal fire and this is a big mistake. A single skinned flue externally is not recommended for domestic applications. Edited January 21, 2014 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Croc Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Steve_in_Devon Where about's are you mate, I only get mine from a local log merchant, went thru about 5 guys till I found this one. I buy them from him in the spring, part seasoned or green, probably around 33% MC and season them myself. Got this lot and another I was building at the time up the side of my place approx 9 cube http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m632/BrianS91/744F42C7-5F8C-418E-A87E-BA6DC0994BEB-7278-000009CE27788002_zps240ecb78.jpg Edited January 21, 2014 by The Croc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 The room my wood burner is in is only 8ft x 12ft so you can imagine the heat, I can get it upto 30+oc in the room no problem, infact when I first had it fitted I cracked all the plaster walls near the fire as it was that hot. And what precisely made you think of putting a unit rated up to 11 kw in that space . It should need all the windows open just to keep burning well at full capacity, just as well considering. My mate runs a canal barge business (building them and holiday hire fleet) he fits little diddy units and they heat that sort of area and larger with ease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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