Fuj Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I am new to the shooting world and after a over&under gun for clay pigeon shooting, what gun do you suggest. I have a maximum budget of £500 at this moment of time, what can this get me would prefer a new gun tbh. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Your best bet is to go for a lesson. choosing a gun is more involved than just saying go buy a whatever brand. An instructor will be able to see what fits you, the type of clay shooting will also affect gun choice ie; sporting, DTL, DT, skeet. First which of the above do you shoot or plan to shoot. Are you of average height and build (or 6'6" brick outhouse) as most guns are made for Mr Average (whoever he is). Don't rule out a second hand gun you could end up with far more for your money, it's not a coincidence so many 100 year old guns are still in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubble Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) well known make, beretta, browning, miruku, second hand, around the £750 mark, worth waiting and saving up a bit more if you can take a lesson and pick a gun from their rack/ their advice, I went to shoot a miruku, but shot best [ ] with a beretta I did half the lesson [ 1/2 hour] at the range and took the instructor to a gun shop for the second half of the lesson [ his offer ], weird but true, he knocked me a tenner off the hour lesson price and I bought him a coffee [ bargain, honest, best £60 spent as I really didn't have a clue, he did ] only went for a £60 lesson came home with a brand new beretta SP1, circa £1400, took a bit of explaining to the wife neill Edited March 28, 2014 by bubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 with £500 that is really a £300 gun if new...margins/vat..........would strongly recommend 2nd hand...guns if looked after last 100 years they aint like cars...for £500 I would look at Lincoln will need to stretch your budget to £700 to bring Miroku into your price range..........If you are NEW NEW to shotguns,dont rush into it lots of time...go try a few first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 well known make, beretta, browning, miruku, second hand, around the £750 mark, worth waiting and saving up a bit more if you can take a lesson and pick a gun from their rack/ their advice, I went to shoot a miruku, but shot best [ ] with a beretta I did half the lesson [ 1/2 hour] at the range and took the instructor to a gun shop for the second half of the lesson [ his offer ], weird but true, he knocked me a tenner off the hour lesson price and I bought him a coffee [ bargain, honest, best £60 spent as I really didn't have a clue, he did ] only went for a £60 lesson came home with a brand new beretta SP1, circa £1400, took a bit of explaining to the wife neill Quite a few coaches will do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuj Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thank you guys, I appreciate your advice.^^ 👍👍 Will do abit more research and probably go for a second hand gun rather than new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 have a word with WABBITBOSHER on here,,,,i,m sure he,ll sort you out and he,ll also save you a fortune aswell atb Evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 You'll easily get a nearly new, v good condition Lanber for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Have a look............. https://www.gunwatch.co.uk/guns/search http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/results.php?&Filter[NewType][]=Shotgun&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Over%20and%20Under&Filter[Calibre][]=12%20gauge&Filter[Price][Min]=350&Filter[Price][Max]=500&Filter[Trigger][]=1 http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Shotgun-for-sale/Over-and-Under/AD/Shotguns?ads_pid=15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuj Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Thank you all. I'm browsing all your recommendations right now. I am unsure of gun club rules; would they allow me to use a semi auto/pump shotgun for clay pigeon shooting? Thinking of buying an over&under along with semi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) YOu can use a semi (2 shot magazine) for clays, but if you have the money for a semi then buy a better OU starting out chopping between 2 guns will slow progress and even impede you. £500 for a lanber and £250 for a hatsan = £750 for a beretta/miroku/browning............. http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Beretta_Shotgun_686-Silver-Pigeon_For-Sale_140304171615831 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Browning_Shotgun_B325-Grade-2_For-Sale_140323180757170 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Miroku_Shotgun_MK-38-Grade-1_For-Sale_130724175012001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Beretta_Shotgun_686-Silver-Pigeon_For-Sale_140310163044193 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Browning_Shotgun_B325-Grade-3_For-Sale_140310203527225 Edited March 28, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strangford wildfowler Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/255241b15125151990330926/Revo+Onyx+12G+28+Inch/hat about Revo they seem to do a buget gun. REVO ONYX SPORT 12 Bore/ GAUGE-EJECTOR Description-multi choke sporter fitted with satin finished walnut manuel safety and ejector Supplied cased with 5 chokes £499.99 New Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I have a fairly modest amount of money in my shotguns I think the most I've paid is £70. I have a Spanish side by side that fits well and because of a minor fault ( a spring had come out of place ) I paid less than half its value at the time. I also have a Baikal O/U which holds its own on sporting clays. To be honest I prefer the side by side but its hard on the shoulder after a hundred cartridges. Funny its never a problem when out decoying. There are many good second hand guns that unless your very tall and need a long stock you should find one that fits. Coaching is worth every penny its much easier to learn right first time than get out of bad habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot1979 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 My two pence. If you're new to the sport, you've got a sensible budget and this is your first gun then forget makes and models and stop stareing at gun magazines. Just find one that fits. I bought my first gun at 15, I went to Reg Toms when he was in Okehampton with 750 quid and every intention of walking away with one of the many Brownings or Berettas he had. I was put straight very quickly as he had me try every gun in the rack. I so wanted one of the two Bs but he pointed out that every time I mounted I would shuffle and adjust them, but there was a cheap Midland multichoke ejector for 250 that mounted perfectly every time, it sat well had good cheek weld and swung with me through all positions naturally. He bluntly told me if I wanted to waste my money and shoot badly he'd gladly sell me one of the others but he'd rather sell me the Midland at 250 and know I'd go away confident and be able to shoot naturally with it. 20 years later I still have it and it's my go to gun for walked up rough shooting every time. In contrast a customer of mine parted with just shy of 2k for a high grade 20 bore and couldn't hit a barn door from inside, he then spent a further 500 having it fitted to his stance but the psychological damage was done and he still struggled to perform with it, he eventually sold it at a loss as it was now none standard. Moral of the story EVEN AN UGLY BIRD CAN SING BEAUTIFULLY. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuj Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Hi mate, yeah you got it in one; I am totally new to this and everyone I speak to keep mentioning the B guns along with other big names so abit confused as to what to do. I would like to go into a gunshop and buy try them out to see what fits but working 9-6 Mon- Sat with only Sunday off doesn't help and the chance of getting any time off is impossible as I manage my brother's bodyshop and lucky to get out on most days before 8pm because your forever doing customers favours trying to get them back on the road within 1-2 days as most vehicles are their work horses and I've ended up with not much of a life of my own plus there isn't much local to me. I did try to get into a few gun clubs to learn clay pigeon shooting and to pick their brains on guns etc but they were of no help and making excuse after excuse everytime I would go down- club gun isn't here today etc (you'd think I was after something for free- I'm not shy of paying for anything or returning a bigger favour for the smallest bit of help from someone) They offered all kimds of training on their website and on the phone and when you went down so&so isn't in so can't Help you therefore I decided to book in for a 1&half hour lesson tomorrow at a shooting school and will see as to what they have and what fits then probably look for something similar. I'm only planning on going clay pigeon shooting the odd Sunday a month so nothing too fancy aslong as it shoots and I hit them clays with it- that will do me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Where are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Fill in your lactation field in your profile will help is help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 He is near dewsbury west Yorkshire I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuj Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Yeah that's right Dewsbury, West Yorks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Revo are worth a look and there are several other NEW O/U that scrape in under £500 (or can be had under £500 with negotiation), most of them Turkish of course, but that isn't necessarily such a bad thing. I understand this desire for new, and all but three of my guns, that I have bought over the years have been new, but used O/U are different to used rifles, and if at all possible may I suggest you look at used varieties of better known/respected makes! PS Whats happened to all the Spanish shotguns, have I just missed them recently, there used to be a few about but I'm struggling to think of any now! Edited March 30, 2014 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuj Posted March 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Some dealers open late one day a week sportsman near me do on a Thursday I don't know dewsbury but there may be one not too far away that does similar or will take a gun your interested in to a local clay ground for you to try on a Sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydi73 Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was the same as you and completely new to the sport. Luckily for me my neighbour was a 27 year vet and was helping me get into it. He met me at the gunshop, he got there first, and laid out four random guns 3 brand new and one s/h.....The s/h gun was thrid one down but you couldn't tell it was used, it was in such good condition. Like you, I had intentions of a brand new gun didn't want to consider s/h........I dry mounted all four guns, but the instant I picked up the s/h gun, it felt and fitted like a glove, the others didn't feel any where as near as comfortable. I went with the second hand gun. Yes, it was a Beretta 682 Golden E, but I got it for £1,500.....So like like the others have all said, go try first and if you have to save a little extra, it's well worth doing......Sorry, that's my limited experience and I sit waiting to be lambasted by the more experienced on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuj Posted March 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hi lloydi73 I appreciate your bit of advice and I think I will be doing that as everyone is saying the same thing and it's pointless having something that doesn't fit. Thanks Thank you all for the replies and the advice. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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