Olliesims Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Got myself in abit of a sticky situation here, never had a problem reloading until now, after using the same cases 4 times just neck sizing, I decided in a rush to full length size all cases and didn't check if they would chamber, after loading all 40 of them I went to try them, the bolt it's extremely hard to close and has to be forced, there for I will pull the heads and re-use the heads and powder, now my question is... Is it worth forcing the bolt down on all 40 rounds to fire off the primer, or is there another way to do this? My other solution was just to discard the rounds and buy new brass, if anyone has a solution, please suggest, Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 It is possible to deprime live rounds...just go SLOWLY....and wear eye protection. Maybe best done in a dedicated deprime die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_gsxr1000 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Seen them removed with compressed air, however they can go off using this method ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark@mbb Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) Just deprime the cases and then lube and put through a full sizing die and hey presto Edited June 23, 2014 by mark@mbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I don't really want to start sticking a de-priming die into a live primer... I've read people say go slow and no problem... But I can't bring myself to try it.. How much damage would be done to the bolt by forcing it shut? I'm starting to think just buy new cases and be done with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) i have de primed live primers lots of times with no issues just go slow and wear glasses.or better still remove the de cap pin if poss and size without no need to remove primers ? just re size Edited June 23, 2014 by zx10mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 That's a good idea I'll see if I can remove the de capping pin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Yeah you can remove pin to save decapping then refit pin to expand the case mouth just a quick in and out without full travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I've tried but couldn't get it too budge, unless I'm doing it wrong... How to remove pin on lee dies? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 It is possible to deprime live rounds...just go SLOWLY....and wear eye protection. Maybe best done in a dedicated deprime die Like Saddler said-go slowly and wear safety specs just incase. I've done this quite a number of times using a normal de-priming die and never had one go off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 I've tried but couldn't get it too budge, unless I'm doing it wrong... How to remove pin on lee dies? CheersUndo the nut and the decapping/ expander should just slide out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 If, on the particular die you have, you cannot remove the de-capping pin, just back the de-capping rod back up into the case enough to enable you to re-size the case without touching the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 If, on the particular die you have, you cannot remove the de-capping pin, just back the de-capping rod back up into the case enough to enable you to re-size the case without touching the cap. I did try with 2 spanners but it would not budge, my problem is I have not re sized them enough, if I back the de capping rod further out then surely this wont size them the extra I need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) The inside of the Die body sizes the full length of the outside of the case. The De-capping rod, that has the de-capping pin on the end, pushes the cap out and on removing the de-capping rod from the case the ball on the end of it, opens the mouth of the case to the size of the calibre you are using. So all you need to do is screw the de-capping rod back so that the pin does not reach the cap but the ball enters the mouth of the case and resizes it on extracting it from the case. Edited June 23, 2014 by EMcC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 The inside of the Die body sizes the full length of the outside of the case. The De-capping rod, that has the de-capping pin on the end, pushes the cap out and on removing the de-capping rod from the case the ball on the end of it, opens the mouth of the case to the size of the calibre you are using. So all you need to do is screw the de-capping rod back so that the pin does not reach the cap but the ball enters the mouth of the case and resizes it on extracting it from the case. Ahh ok I get you now I did try to remove the screw from the top and it wouldn't budge, I'm just going to buy new brass and just neck size from now on, cheers for your help tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Can I advise to wear ear protection too? Primers are incredibly loud when they go off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Can I advise to wear ear protection too? Primers are incredibly loud when they go off Really, I have removed live primers from many cases over the years and never had one go off, I might try one, one day just to hear one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Really, I have removed live primers from many cases over the years and never had one go off, I might try one, one day just to hear one. Try putting one on an anvil & hitting with a hammer. Loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Man up and go slow nothing will happen Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 you must be able to replace the decaping pin?they break sometimes and it would make no sense to ditch the whole die.good luck i'm sure you will sort it.welt it with a hammer that fixes lots of things. if it goes bang it might remove the decaping pin for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 Man up and go slow nothing will happen Deershooter +1 IF one were to go off it would make you jump but nothing else would really be a problem. The anvil can't come up through the flash hole. The decapping pin will be fully blocking the flash hole any way. The bottom of the primer will be unsupported so will blow downwards with some force. This would be where the problem might be, if your ram has an angled chute for the spent primers to fall out it may be deflected, a wad of rag would catch it ok. A quick squirt with some sort of light oil/paraffin would probably disable them if it really worried you. I've decapped a good few over the years and never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) I decided in a rush to full length size all cases and didn't check if they would chamber, after loading all 40 of them I went to try them, the bolt it's extremely hard to close and has to be forced, I'm confused, did you full length size the cases or not?, if you did and they won't chamber you need to re-check the die set-up as a FLS case should fit any chamber. As for removing live primers, not a problem justy go slowly and use safety glasses as said above, it's really not a problem. The Lee die decapping "pin" is removed by holding the die with one spanner and using another (sometimes with a bit of help from a mallet!) to unscrew the lock nut, it may require quite a bit of force to get it started. Easiest way is to put the spanner on the die body and place the die horizontal on a work surface with the spanner resting on the surface, this gives you a solid lock of the die body to push against. Then fit the other spanner to the lock nut so it can be forced down towards the work surface, as I said a whack with a mallet may be required to get it started. That probably sounds as clear as mud Here's a photo to show what I mean Edited June 24, 2014 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olliesims Posted June 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Yes I did full length size all the cases with the fl die set up wrong, I'm going to buy some new cases today, and then I'll try again to remove the pin out the die to resize these ones with the primers in Edited June 24, 2014 by Olliesims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx10mike Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 mental not,buy reading dies. de cap pin out in ten seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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