chapperz1991 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 So first post in a while although I have been a regular reader. I have just applied for my firearms certificate having been shooting rifles regularly with my friend. I have received back a letter from suffolk firearms stating that one of my referees is not suitable. My first referee is a long time family friend and teacher and my other is said friend with current Fac and shotgun certificates. I was a bit perplexed so I rang the flu and due to data protection could not specify who and why. So I just have to find another referee. Point worth mentioning the family friend did act as referee for my shotgun certificate, could this have any bearing on the application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 No i used the same referee for both my SGC and FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 For coterminous applications you only need two referees now so shouldn't make a difference if you've used one before. Probably the other one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Do you not think it strange because the other one is a fac and shotgun cert holder. So what might deem then unsuitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spandit Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Do you not think it strange because the other one is a fac and shotgun cert holder. So what might deem then unsuitable? Seems a bit off as now you have to find two more if they won't tell you which one is unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted June 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I thought the same thing but no I only have to submit 1 other referee and they have sent one of my blank photographs back to be signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safc1973 Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 No i used the same referee for both my SGC and FAC. I did the same without problem - lawyer friend did sgc last year & fac this year and another friend who holds current sgc & fac was 2nd reference for my fac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanM Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 Have you known him for at least two years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 They need no qualification as such but criminal record might dis bar them or if you haven't known them long enough, five years for FAC I think? Just re-done mine and I have had different references at most renewals, this time it was a retired Rgt Sgt major and a plumber (both just close personal friends ) neither was contacted yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) when i renewed mine, none of my refs were contacted. Edited June 28, 2014 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Ive just recently renewed mine and they contacted both of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I suggest one of your referees has been in trouble with the police at sometime, i had my application back for the same reason, i could not understand it as the two referees were the same two persons I had used for my renewal five years ago. it turns out one of the referees had a police caution two years ago! Edited June 28, 2014 by browning123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I understand about the criminal record but he holds a current fac and shotgun cert. Surely they wouldn't have granted these if he's not even fit to be a referee? I've known him 7+ years and shoot with him regularly. Hopefully I've found a suitable 3rd referee ex tax man and long term family friend plus he was my rugby coach for 2+ years. Fingers crossed this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) I understand about the criminal record but he holds a current fac and shotgun cert. Surely they wouldn't have granted these if he's not even fit to be a referee? I've known him 7+ years and shoot with him regularly. Hopefully I've found a suitable 3rd referee ex tax man and long term family friend plus he was my rugby coach for 2+ years. Fingers crossed this time!Both my referees also held firearms certificates - and still said one was not suitable!!!Does not make a lot of sense does it! Edited June 28, 2014 by browning123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I suggest one of your referees has been in trouble with the police at sometime, i had my application back for the same reason, i could not understand it as the two referees were the same two persons I had used for my renewal five years ago. it turns out one of the referees had a police caution two years ago! One of my referees had a caution but Humberside accepted her. I didn't know until after she had sent the paperwork back so was a bit worried after I found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Well I've just sent off my new referee form 201 and signed photograph. Fingers crossed Suffolk are pretty quick and hopefully hear something within the next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted July 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Visit tomorrow at 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted July 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 So had my interview today. Decided just to get a .17hmr asked for .223 told wait a year. Can't argue with that as I haven't had a lot of experience with centerfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 So had my interview today. Decided just to get a .17hmr asked for .223 told wait a year. Can't argue with that as I haven't had a lot of experience with centerfire.I can`t weigh this up, what is going to change in a year? your still not going to have any centre fire experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I have just joined a club but probation is 6 months. There is someone there who would be willing to show me the ropes with centre fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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