Dekers Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) I must be one of the lucky ones then, together with many1000's of others. My .308 700 SPS is just as good as both of my Tikkas, despite dire warning by many prior to me purchasing it! Edited July 1, 2014 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I know what you mean. I loose track of all the numbers. A mate of mine has a Tikka in .338 WM. I thought it was a 595 and so did he, but its an m95 or a m65 or 55 or something or other. M65 rings a bell. Is that the long action version of the 55? I don't know. Sounds like a motorway in the midlands anyway. Action-wise it seems identical to my 595 in weight and feel and quality, except its a long action obviously. The only discernible difference is that his stock appears to be made of a different, lighter-coloured and heavier timber, which is no bad thing for a .338. As Sako 7mm says mine (which definitely is a 595) has a plastic trigger plate and well and my mates .338 is all steel. But plastic or no, I wouldn't swap my 595 for a Remy 700. M65 runs from Preston to Colne and M55 from Garstang and the M6 to Blackpool M56 goes from South Manchester to the M53 Chester and the Wirral. MI 5 is our intelligence service and MFI is a now bankrupt furniture retailer. Its all too much for me and I need to do some proper work now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 M65 runs from Preston to Colne and M55 from Garstang and the M6 to Blackpool M56 goes from South Manchester to the M53 Chester and the Wirral. MI 5 is our intelligence service and MFI is a now bankrupt furniture retailer. Its all too much for me and I need to do some proper work now Kent I think you've been in the sun to long you might need to go and sit in the shade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Swingers Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Well, I went and window-shopped for rifles t'other day. Had a good hard long look at a Tikka T3 Super Varmint (same stock as the tactical but stainless steel rather than the manganese phosphate coating to the barrel and action). Despite listening to the advice I've had, I also checked out a Remington 700 LTRthey had in stock S/H which felt great although the action was much more agricultural in feel than the silky smooth T3. It does, however, come in a bit cheaper than a new T3 varmint and already has a nice HS Precision stock (I loved the feel of that). The plastic T3 stock felt good but the Remington was much more my cup of tea. I'm going to wait and see when my ticket turns up and check whether the rifle is still in stock. I'm kinda going back that way. It preports to be a sub-MOA rifle out of the box much the same way that the Tikka does and with a full aluminium bedded action, fluted varmint barrel and adjustable trigger I can't see why it wouldn't be provided it's been assembled properly. I guess we'll see when the time comes whether I still feel like it's a gamble worth taking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I must be one of the lucky ones then, together with many1000's of others. My .308 700 SPS is just as good as both of my Tikkas, despite dire warning by many prior to me purchasing it! I'm not knocking the 700 its just that for me personally, handling and shooting the Remy and the Tikka side by side it would be the Tikka every time. Just personal preference. I do kind of think Remington are a bit like the Harley Davidson of the rifle world. You buy an illustrious name and in there somewhere there is a cracking piece of kit, but when you open the box the factory seem to expect you to spend half as much again making it into the machine it should have been in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Me too in not knocking the 700. The last one from new was ace....once I did the trigger...six hours work! And noticed the bolt handle touching the stock. The 6.5 T3 out the box was good to go out the box. The trigger was a 10minute job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I own two 700's and both are decent rifles, but having sold Remington, Tikka, Sako, Winchester, Browning and Savage etc. The numbers of faulty, new in box Remington 700's was shocking. The quality control at the factory is simply not good enough. The majority of people wont have a problem, but when you do encounter one getting it resolved will be a nightmare. For me the risks outweigh the benefits now and I wont be buying another one. Its not like they are much cheaper than the Tikka either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger3167 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Club i shoot with own a few remington 700 but they purchase the police versions when they find them, but i believe they only ever came in .223 caliber but i may be mistaken. They shoot excelent and have had many rounds through them without any problems. but for me the Tikas win hands down, i bought 2 one in .223 the other in .308. Faultless rifles Lots of upgrades available if needed check out Lumley Arms. http://www.turveystalking.co.uk/lumley-arms. and Accuracy International are bringing out therir AI chassis to drop the Tikas into rather than just the Remingtons. I have just ordered new 12 - 20 ounce trigger springs from the states to get a finer trigger pull on the range, but nothing wrong with the factory trigger adjustable right down to 2lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Club i shoot with own a few remington 700 but they purchase the police versions when they find them, but i believe they only ever came in .223 caliber but i may be mistaken. They shoot excelent and have had many rounds through them without any problems. but for me the Tikas win hands down, i bought 2 one in .223 the other in .308. Faultless rifles Lots of upgrades available if needed check out Lumley Arms. http://www.turveystalking.co.uk/lumley-arms. and Accuracy International are bringing out therir AI chassis to drop the Tikas into rather than just the Remingtons. I have just ordered new 12 - 20 ounce trigger springs from the states to get a finer trigger pull on the range, but nothing wrong with the factory trigger adjustable right down to 2lbs. The police came in .308 win then .223 rem, I think there was also a magnum option but I have never seen one. The PSS (police) is under military and law enforcement dept of Remmington arms range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Is it possible that the M&P models have a more thorough assembly and check than civilian models ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Is it possible that the M&P models have a more thorough assembly and check than civilian models ? I doubt it, things really are bad it seems. However if you get a good 700 it will be good and the gunsmiths love to work on them coz they are dead easy to mess around with and there are loads of off the shelf fixtures, jigs and special parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Swingers Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Well, decision was made a while back, 8 weeks from order I finally took delivery of this today... Howa 1500 varmint barrel 24" in .308win. Stealth combo kit so it comes with the Hogue stock, DBM conversion with 5shot magazine and Sonic 45 mod, bipod and a Nikko Sterling 3-12x56 scope (which is rather decent for a sub £200 optic) plus mounts. A lot of kit for under £900 all in. Cheapest option and tbh I'm hoping it shoots as well as it looks. I'll find that out in a week's time. Edited October 26, 2014 by Ginger_Swingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Have a look at Sabatti rifles. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I guess that's the howa? I've a hogue stocked howa 223 and really can't fault it. It's shooting less than 1" groups at 100 yards and I was hitting the plate at garlands at 250 every shot . The hogue stock isn't that flexy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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