SHOOTEMUP Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Yes...but he'll be back. In September. I think he needs a rest, he looks knackered, and has lost some of his mojo over the last few months. He made a mistake saying he'd resign if he didn't win in Thanet, and I think he knew that. As a man of principle he resigned this morning. However, that doesn't stop him reapplying for the job of leader when it comes up in September. A break will do him good, and he'll be back re-energised and ready to roll. I suspect he'll be working behind the scenes on the party's future direction over the summer. Expect a fairer voting system to be a big part of that. Long live the king. I agree with you he looks totally worn out and deserves a rest he really has given his life and health to the party and I really think he will have a good rest and come back energised and stand again for the leadership, he deserves to succeed and in my opinion he is the hardest working political figure I have known particularly with the full weight of the media and establishment always attacking him for the slightest thing. We need him to be there for us as the representative of honesty and the one who is not afraid to tell it like it is! I think they did really well but they lost votes due to the fear of liabour and the snp getting together which would have been awful for our country, I had to wait for half an hour to cast my vote so I assume that from what people said to me during the wait a lot were going to vote UKIP but they wanted to do anything they could to stop Milliband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTEMUP Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 what a nasty ungracious piece of (you name it) you are. KW +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 what a nasty ungracious piece of (you name it) you are. KW Or ‘agent provocateur’! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11M1VmV88O4 You have to be a contender for the "I achived Godwin's law in the biggest most bizarre way" awards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) You have to be a contender for the "I achived Godwin's law in the biggest most bizarre way" awards LOL had to look that up, no not at all the Hitler parodies has hundreds of variants taking the proverbial out of all sorts, politics, sport, religion some are hilarious here is a top 25 list and one for KW number 13 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6262709/Hitler-Downfall-parodies-25-worth-watching.html Edited May 9, 2015 by chrisjh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 LOL had to look that up, no not at all the Hitler parodies has hundreds of variants taking the proverbial out of all sorts, politics, sport, religion some are hilarious here is a top 25 list and one for KW number 13 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6262709/Hitler-Downfall-parodies-25-worth-watching.html No the best one ever is hitlers xmas party in Hartlepool (worth a look) funny thing is its true. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 LOL had to look that up, no not at all the Hitler parodies has hundreds of variants taking the proverbial out of all sorts, politics, sport, religion some are hilarious here is a top 25 list and one for KW number 13 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6262709/Hitler-Downfall-parodies-25-worth-watching.html I have made a few myself, but you still invoked Godwin's law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 No the best one ever is hitlers xmas party in Hartlepool (worth a look) funny thing is its true. KW LMAO that's class really well put together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 I live in a 'safe' Labour seat...... Oh sorry I did until we got the Balls out this morning. EVERY vote matters, mine certainly contributed to the 443 that got him out. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hemsworth+constituency+results&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=NvdNVdiQLcyQ7Aa80YGoCQ John Trickett Labour received 51% of the vote with a majority of over 12000, Ex mining area, you could quite literally field a monkey with a red rosette and the cod heads will still vote for him. But great result over your side of the city, must admit it was the icing on the cake for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 If he does return to the melee he will certainly be amongst good company then, given the 'snake-oil salesman' types we have in politics right now. Given your opinion of him he will sit right in. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyxologos Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Blimey you were right! .... oh no, wait a second. .. Lol. Me and the rest of the world. Are you actually trying to say that there was any indication of what happened? I did nor see it coming. If you did good on you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Exactly. Roll on September. His return will no doubt shake things up somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Roll on September. His return will no doubt shake things up somewhat. I genuinely hope so, he has already rang alarm bells in the established parties,in that they now are starting to understand they are there to represent rather than shape, and control. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxie Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Ukip have just won Thanet council the first Ukip council ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 (edited) Ukip have just won Thanet council the first Ukip council ever. that's going to be bent someones been paid off for the avoidance of doubt this last comment was a wind up Edited May 9, 2015 by chrisjh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Ukip have just won Thanet council the first Ukip council ever. Doesn't surprise me at all. They'll do well in the council elections, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) I genuinely hope so, he has already rang alarm bells in the established parties,in that they now are starting to understand they are there to represent rather than shape, and control. KW course you do without nigel theres no ukip, having said that now your getting a referendum theres nothing for ukip to protest about they are getting what they wanted and i admit that would not have happened without nigel Edited May 10, 2015 by overandunder2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 course you do without nigel theres no ukip, having said that now your getting a referendum theres nothing for ukip to protest about they are getting what they wanted and i admit that would not have happened without nigel Are we, will we? if we do have a vote lets see what the watered down version is, will it be a straight yes or no? and what will the spin from the press and TV media be? and what will the push to keep us in is be like. Oh and as for do we need UKIP well looking at the vote up here in the north east its obvious that the feeling here is that the traditional party of labour has evolved so much its now an offshoot of the cons , and the only two lib seats we had now no longer exist, so as seen by the % of vote for UKIP an alternative is required, that alternative will be UKIP its a shame Nige did not run for Hartlepool, he may well just have done it here as he would not have had the tactical vote to the cons to keep him out, as the voters here would rather have a kidney removed without anesthetic than vote for the southern tory cretins. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Are we, will we? if we do have a vote lets see what the watered down version is, will it be a straight yes or no? and what will the spin from the press and TV media be? and what will the push to keep us in is be like. Oh and as for do we need UKIP well looking at the vote up here in the north east its obvious that the feeling here is that the traditional party of labour has evolved so much its now an offshoot of the cons , and the only two lib seats we had now no longer exist, so as seen by the % of vote for UKIP an alternative is required, that alternative will be UKIP its a shame Nige did not run for Hartlepool, he may well just have done it here as he would not have had the tactical vote to the cons to keep him out, as the voters here would rather have a kidney removed without anesthetic than vote for the southern tory cretins. KW true but people vote for ukip because they want the referendum and that ships sailing without ukip. id rather have a kidney removed without anesthetic than vote for the tory cretins. he wouldn't run in hartlepool he may have to live there and he's a southerner threw and threw Edited May 10, 2015 by overandunder2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) Are we, will we? if we do have a vote lets see what the watered down version is, will it be a straight yes or no? and what will the spin from the press and TV media be? and what will the push to keep us in is be like. Oh and as for do we need UKIP well looking at the vote up here in the north east its obvious that the feeling here is that the traditional party of labour has evolved so much its now an offshoot of the cons , and the only two lib seats we had now no longer exist, so as seen by the % of vote for UKIP an alternative is required, that alternative will be UKIP its a shame Nige did not run for Hartlepool, he may well just have done it here as he would not have had the tactical vote to the cons to keep him out, as the voters here would rather have a kidney removed without anesthetic than vote for the southern tory cretins. KW The words on, chip shoulder and your spring to mind. Have you seen a political map of Britain recently? Edit: Here's a map if it helps. Edited May 10, 2015 by FalconFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 The words on, chip shoulder and your spring to mind. Have you seen a political map of Britain recently? Edit: Here's a map if it helps. <script pagespeed_no_defer="" type="text/javascript">//=d.offsetWidth&&0>=d.offsetHeight)a=!1;else{c=d.getBoundingClientRect();var f=document.body;a=c.top+("pageYOffset"in window?window.pageYOffset:(document.documentElement||f.parentNode||f).scrollTop);c=c.left+("pageXOffset"in window?window.pageXOffset:(document.documentElement||f.parentNode||f).scrollLeft);f=a.toString()+","+c;b.b.hasOwnProperty(f)?a=!1:(b.b[f]=!0,a=a<=b.e.height&&c<=b.e.width)}a&&(b.a.push(e),b.d[e]=!0)};p.prototype.checkImageForCriticality=function(b){b.getBoundingClientRect&&q(this,b)};h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.checkImageForCriticality",function(b){n.checkImageForCriticality(b)});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.checkCriticalImages",function(){r(n)});var r=function(b){b.b={};for(var d=["IMG","INPUT"],a=[],c=0;c=a.length+e.length&&(a+=e)}b.g&&(e="&rd="+encodeURIComponent(JSON.stringify(s())),131072>=a.length+e.length&&(a+=e),d=!0);t=a;if(d){c=b.f;b=b.h;var f;if(window.XMLHttpRequest)f=new XMLHttpRequest;else if(window.ActiveXObject)try{f=new ActiveXObject("Msxml2.XMLHTTP")}catch(k){try{f=new ActiveXObject("Microsoft.XMLHTTP")}catch(u){}}f&&(f.open("POST",c+(-1==c.indexOf("?")?"?":"&")+"url="+encodeURIComponent(b)),f.setRequestHeader("Content-Type","application/x-www-form-urlencoded"),f.send(a))}}},s=function(){var b={},d=document.getElementsByTagName("IMG");if(0==d.length)return{};var a=d[0];if(!("naturalWidth"in a&&"naturalHeight"in a))return{};for(var c=0;a=d[c];++c){var e=a.getAttribute("pagespeed_url_hash");e&&(!(e in b)&&0=b[e].k&&a.height>=b[e].j)&&(b[e]={rw:a.width,rh:a.height,ow:a.naturalWidth,oh:a.naturalHeight})}return b},t="";h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.getBeaconData",function(){return t});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run",function(b,d,a,c,e,f){var k=new p(b,d,a,e,f);n=k;c&&m(function(){window.setTimeout(function(){r(k)},0)})});})();pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run('/mod_pagespeed_beacon','http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=91cd12c6eaf1e296e62feea7796cbd1c&app=forums&module=ajax§ion=topics&do=quote&t=311958&p=2821866&md5check=d275bc5e97e4667f08aa9041726b1cd4&isRte=1,l8PuqRhht8,true,false,0GsPsYYKN9w'); //]]></script>&&0 and pray tell what that means in % of vote me old nugget. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 and pray tell what that means in % of vote me old nugget. KW it dont matter its seats that count all the partys have the same playing field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 it dont matter its seats that count all the partys have the same playing field oh yes the number of seats rather than the number of votes, nige got 4 million votes and 1 seat the snp 1.3 million votes and 56 seats, so tell me how is it a level playing field , its skewed to suit the big two, one of who failed disastrously by allowing the cons a landslide with only a % rise of less than 2% yes a 1 odd% increase in the vote so how level? as level as a billiard table on its side. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) but our election system is based on a vote per electoral ward, although it has been turned into a competition for PM, it isn't what it is about. We really have 650 mini elections. Edit to add: What are the thoughts about the boundary changes and reduction in number of MPs? Essentially the change is to make sure that every electoral ward has approximately the same number of voters. That way it is a fair contest as each MP represents the same number of people. Edited May 10, 2015 by grrclark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Labour has been tweaking it for years in their favour. I would halve the number of MPs, A bunch of mostly ex public sector crowd up here have a party called " Yorkshire First" and want and independent assembly for Yorkshire. Their manifesto is so vague as be ambiguous in every way and they still will not say how it will be funded. Probably by us daft taxpayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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