madmatt Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Please help was shooting today and the grub screw at the back of the trigger guard has come out, it is still in the gun but i am guessing it has to be screwed back in internally as i can't get it out. Is this a job i can do or has it got to go to a gunsmiths. I do not know as this is my first shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Is it not a rivet? If you are in doubt get a gunsmith to do it. If you break it = your money. If they break it = their money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Is the hole in the trigger guard countersunk if so i would think the head has come of the screw, i dont know the gun and how its ment to be. i am sure someone else with the same gun will be more helpfull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Undo the two pozi drive / Phillips screws from the recoil pad, some times it can help to add a touch of saliva to the end of the screw driver to aid in a bit of slip with the rubber of the pad, then (usually) with a 6mm Allen drive on a long extension bar undo the stock bolt, it's located in the base of the hole covered by the recoil pad. Slide the stock off keeping the action upright as it were ( tipping it on its side may reveal a loose pin !) then using a correctly fitting 'screw' driver tighten your screw, then reassemble Easy !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul223 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sorry no pics of the actual screw but you get an idea of what to expect plus as you can see there's a variety of pins some of which could be loose enough to move if you were to lie the action on its side (as it is in this pic) chances are they'll be alright but as long as your aware and look to see if any are loose before tipping it over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 This happened to my silver pigeon IV last year. I got my old man to fix it for me, but it isn't a difficult job. Paul 223 has described how to fix, but if - like with my gun - the thread is a bit knackered, it may have to be re-profiled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think that is a very bad design, having to take the stock of, would have been better the trigger guard countersunk and a countersuck macine threaded screw from the outside. Looking at the picture how do you get a screwdriver in to tighten it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 A correctly ground driver will do the job just nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmatt Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Thank you Paul 223, nicely explained. I will have a crack at it later on. Can i or should I not put a bit of thread lock on it to stop this happening again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 There shouldn't be any need to but yes of course u can, just a touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think that is a very bad design, having to take the stock of, would have been better the trigger guard countersunk and a countersuck macine threaded screw from the outside. Looking at the picture how do you get a screwdriver in to tighten it. John see what your saying but then you'd have another pin on the outside and they never look the nicest. It's easy to get to with a correctly ground screwdriver or turnscrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCamper1982 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Hi, this exactly happened to me today whilst out shooting, I came straight home and looked on here and bingo! Job done, fixed! So thank you all for the information given pigeon watch is great!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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