mahmood Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 hi guys iam looking to shoot woodies at quite close ranges of 15 to 20 yards with my air arms s200, where do u think i should aim at. Head, Neck, chest, head is a bit of a risk as there always keep moving it, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Front on, base of neck upwards, Side, head and neck, Facing away, back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 Hi, With a FAC airgun you can easy take heartshots too. With my airgun .25 56fpe shooting Bisley Pest Control pellets, the woodies go straight down (very dead). Sometimes I shoot one BIG lethal hole through the chest of them (double size of .25) also making them drop dead instantly. This case of a hole right through the birds punctures the theory that a pellet should stop within a quarry to get a clean kill. This case shows it is more about ripping tissue and veins over to get a clean kill, no "dumping of energy effect". Never shoot a woodpigeon from straight on in the center of the chest - you don´t have the power to penetrate the breastbone and the crop behind it. To do this, you need a least a high power rimfire or even more firepower ! Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENGRASS Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Head shot and be done with it:15 to 20 yards the distance you quote it would be like shooting at a size 4 football to go for a body shot come on Mamood get with the sport: Challenge your self and get some satisfaction: Regards Greengrass: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahmood Posted February 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 thanks 4 da advice guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamebag Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 c.o.m. shots are a peice of cake at 15-20 yards if you look at the wing where it curves on the body if you aim just a little to the left or right (Depending on how the woodie is facing ie if its left side on then aim the right side of the curve) of the curve to avoid the bone of the wing you will get a lung heart shot that will drop him like a brick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi again, I agree with you Gamebag. A sideshot to the heart/lung area make them go down. Especially with a FAC airgun. I remember the first woodie I shot was with a sideshot to the heart/lung and WOW it went straight down. I have also taken woodies with almost straight front to me and placed the pellet in the side closest to me (angle of 10-15 degrees) shooting around the large breastbone and into the heart area. So they can be taken from almost any angle you choose if you have FAC airgun, but never straight on in the center of the chest. Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermin Dropper Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 I agree with GG, at that sort of distance you should have no problem taking head shots every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi, At that distance (15-20 yards) I normally shoot completely through them in the heart area with the Bisley Pest Control pellets, leaving a very BIG BLACK hole. Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Mike Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Another way to kill them if they have got their backs to you, shot them in the butt if they have got their heads down feeding and the pellet will pass through most of the body before coming out somewhere near the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamebag Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 feth me mike thats a bit ott isnt it? true your pellet will cause some major damage but think of the mess lol also if the pigeon is well built there is a good chance of wounding him with a belly shot or if you are the wrong angle to him or you get a slight cross wind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon_decoyer Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 I find if you really want the pigeons aim for the most easiest part on the pigeons body, the wing, i shoot the wing most times if they are far away because you can never normally miss, then just chase them because the cant really run fast then ring there neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank555 Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 I find if you really want the pigeons aim for the most easiest part on the pigeons body, the wing, i shoot the wing most times if they are far away because you can never normally miss, then just chase them because the cant really run fast then ring there neck. Are you for real? How about I shoot you in the balls then run after you and ring your neck.........You ******* moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank555 Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 I can not believe some of the answers to this topic. Some of you people are allowed out with a rifle, I wouldn't trust you lot to handle my pecker, I thought population control was about humane dispatch. Some of you are describing scenes from a Quentin Tarrantino movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank555 Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi, With a FAC airgun you can easy take heartshots too. With my airgun .25 56fpe shooting Bisley Pest Control pellets, the woodies go straight down (very dead). Sometimes I shoot one BIG lethal hole through the chest of them (double size of .25) also making them drop dead instantly. This case of a hole right through the birds punctures the theory that a pellet should stop within a quarry to get a clean kill. This case shows it is more about ripping tissue and veins over to get a clean kill, no "dumping of energy effect". Never shoot a woodpigeon from straight on in the center of the chest - you don´t have the power to penetrate the breastbone and the crop behind it. To do this, you need a least a high power rimfire or even more firepower ! Cheers - BOLTA Maybe a M16 or an Uzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi frank555, Yeah , maybe a AR-15 or an Uzi. The other stuff I wrote here is NOT taken out of a Quentin Tarrantino movie - but is DEADLY reality, I can assure you. Just blast them away !!! Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 PD you wanna go chuck yourself off a bridge mate if you do things like that, and don't brand yourself as a pigeon decoyer!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Hi everybody, I think it best if we kept to the subject that mahmood started here !!! And that is about taking woodies with an airgun, mates. So anybody who has something good to say about this subject is welcome. Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Mahmood...... Neck up every time at 15 to 20 yards. Beyond that I would still aim for the same area....... Dont be tempted to aim at any other area beyond this as these birds are pretty tough and I wouldnt be confident of a clean kill on any more than 2 out of 10 birds. Lets face it we can all hit a bird at 35 with an average set up but thats not the issue. I cant beleive some of the previous comments sound like some of these guys are mentally challenged. The word Philistine comes to mind......... FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi FM, I don´t know if I am one of these guys you mentioned. But I have not exaggerated ANY of this stuff I have wrote earlier. I keep to the truth, nothing but the plain truth. I just give my experience to you, so you can learn of it. Yes, I have a very powerful airgun - I know that !!! And again, if you have a powerful FAC airgun you can take woodies from almost any angle you like - but not straight on in center of the chest. You will probably need a least around 100fpe and a heavy weight pellet/slug to do this. THIS IS THE TRUTH, mate. And by the way, I take nearly every woodie I pull the trigger at and they are stone-dead before they hit the ground. Not just 2 out of 10 birds here !!! That is only for beginners, mate. Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 And again, if you have a powerful FAC airgun you can take woodies from almost any angle you like - but not straight on in center of the chest. You will probably need a least around 100fpe and a heavy weight pellet/slug to do this. 100ft/lb A 30ft/lb airgun will do it. A .22lr does it easy as pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi red_stag88, Yeah, you can try it if you like - but be sure to return to me with a sad smile on your face to tell me that I am right !!! My 56fpe airgun can´t do it and so can yours not !!! You will never have the power to penetrate that breastbone of the woodies. You will need a rimfire to do this. And I mean in the center of the chest from straight front, not from any other angles. Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Methinks Bolta, you might care to moderate your style and tone. Some folks who've been on the board for ages might josh each other in good nature, but you're still a new face - y'don't want to **** everyone off early doors do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi mark@cssd, If you think I need to moderate my style and tone, I will do that if that helps anyone. That is no problem for me. But I don´t liked to be attacked by any who is thinking I am here just to tell lies. What I tell is only the truth of what I have experienced - thats all. Cheers - BOLTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Fair go's Bolta. Just bear in mind that stuff in type doesn't carry the usual nuances (spell?) etc that speaking face to face does. So something might come across confrontational that wasn't meant that way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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