LEFTY478 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6560685.stm Standby to defend ourselves from more Anti-gun ********, by left wing loonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Indeed. I can see why an early poll got closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 My first thought was for the parents and friends of these children and what they must be going through. They are claiming 22 dead and over 20 wounded. Worrying about the reaction of "anti gun left wing loonies", was way down my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 My first thoughts are that I am grateful that we have gun controls in this country. Yeah yeah match, petrol.... but don't get me wrong we don't need any more. So criminals can get stuff on the black market but when everyone and anyone can get an AK47 and 10,000 armour piercing rounds at your local Co-Op then we are really in the poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Very sad indeed Thats all we need. Another link below: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1260892,00.html Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 It's absolutely appalling what has happened in the States, and they have to find their own way to prevent it happening again. All I can ask for are no knee jerk reactions from politicians that happened here after Dunblane, when failings by the local police resulted in a total pistol ban put into effect. Reasonable gun control is essential to prevent misuse, and in this country we have a fair balance (apart from pistol target shooters). My heart goes out to the families of the students concerned, and I am sure that the news will get worse. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 sorry for the familys,but are they going to do any thing about gun control not seen much happen since the last shootings they have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 They won't do anything because the right to bear arms is wrapped up in their constitution. This latest tragedy has a touch of de ja vue.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 When I woke this morning I found my driveway under 3' of water, couldn't get either car out so had to call a cab, I was subsequently late for a meeting and my nicotine withdrawal (10 days witout a fag) was hell - in short I was in a foul mood. Having now seen this it sort of put things in perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I heard that the toll was now 33 dead. Apparently the madman was running around shooting people for 2½ hours before he was stopped. Hungerford rings a bell doesn’t it. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6560685.stm Standby to defend ourselves from more Anti-gun ********, by left wing loonies. Actually old chap I think they're more likely to be right wing red necks :blink: Very sad about the kids. I was moaning (usual grumpy old man stuff about the state of the world) to her indoors earlier and her comment put the whole life thing in perspective...'no doubt any one of them would gladly swap places with you' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 TOTALY LOST FOR WORLDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 So, Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia madman had legally held firearms; because his crimainal/social background check came back clean, dispite an (unfortunately) failed suicide attempt in 2005 and dispite being warned by the police after he was reported for stalking. After his suicide attempt he was taken before a Judge, who recommended that he should be taken for psychiatric evaluation - which would have barred him from getting firearms clearance - but he wasn't. There were at least two incidents of stalking report to Virginia police, and they could have taken out a Restraining order - which would have barred him from getting firearms clearance - but again, he wasn't. People in authority failing to take the correct action, at several stages in a chain of events, which ends in tragedy. Starting to sound like Dunblane, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacob w h Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 All he done was ticked no on the form for the glock and half an hour later he was out with it the laws in America are just wrong, by the way isn't it wierd the way they can go out and by a machine gun and all their police carry is a pistol or shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 The yank cops have a damn sight more than pistols and shotguns my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 The man who sold him the pistols said it was the fault of the university that it happened. They had a gun ban which meant that no one was allowed to carry, if there had been no ban then it would have ended a lot sooner because someone would have shot him. Now that is twisted logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 I'd just like to point out that every state has different laws pertaining to firearms. Some like Virginia are pretty relaxed, others like my home state of New Jersey are very tight - in NJ you can't own an shotgun/rifle/airifle without going through a process similar to the UK shotgun licensing system including a mental health background check. Handgun ownership requires even more thorough background checks. For those who are interested in whats being said amongst our fellow sportsman in the U.S I've pasted some links to a couple of forums that I frequent. It makes for some interesting (occasionally alarming) reading. http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article25385.htm http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article25386.htm http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105863 http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105801 http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105822 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 I won't blast the notion of promoting students carrying concealed weapons in college, two very different cultures and I would be wrong to criticise. WHAT THE HELL!! Some people think the problem is that there simply are not enough firearms?? Oh deary me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 All he done was ticked no on the form for the glock and half an hour later he was out with it the laws in America are just wrong, by the way isn't it wierd the way they can go out and by a machine gun and all their police carry is a pistol or shotgun I got the Blaser at a local store which is aimed more at the wingshooter/hunter, very impressive selection of sxs's and rifles. I happily spent two hours there chatting with the resident gunsmith while waiting for my NICS background check to be done. I think it (slightly) more than a tick form, taking 30 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 I won't blast the notion of promoting students carrying concealed weapons in college, two very different cultures and I would be wrong to criticise. WHAT THE HELL!! Some people think the problem is that there simply are not enough firearms?? Oh deary me. Have to agree - students carrying concealed weapons is a very scary thought - pretty unthinkable in a society that doesn't allow the purchase of alcohol until your 21 - you can have a Glock but not a shandy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 I can see the logic in it, no matter how twisted, if there were either security or other persons with weapons then perhaps someone could have taken a slug to him. The thought of a shootout, students/rent-a-cop versus a maniac, in a college, doesn't bear thinking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 I'd just like to point out that every state has different laws pertaining to firearms. Some like Virginia are pretty relaxed, others like my home state of New Jersey are very tight - in NJ you can't own an shotgun/rifle/airifle without going through a process similar to the UK shotgun licensing system including a mental health background check. Handgun ownership requires even more thorough background checks. For those who are interested in whats being said amongst our fellow sportsman in the U.S I've pasted some links to a couple of forums that I frequent. It makes for some interesting (occasionally alarming) reading. http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article25385.htm http://www.newjerseyhunter.com/article25386.htm http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105863 http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105801 http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105822 Norfolkboy, some very goods read in there, especially Bob K's (long) post on http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=105863 Lefty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 It is just spiraling out of control isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkBoy Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 It is just spiraling out of control isn't it? It certainly look's that way doesn't it? But will this incident result in a US handgun ban similar to Dunblane? Probably not - with elections looming over here the Anti-gun left wing Democrats won't dare to say propose more stringent gun control legislation on the basis that it could lose them votes in key states where gun ownership is more prevalent. Politics 'eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky640 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 no gun ever killed anything !!!!! its the man or thug that kills we would all do well to remember this i also think the governing body should put a ban on pictures and over reporting of storys such as this as i think it fuels the minds of many more nutters just thinking out loud again kirky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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