mossberg-operator Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) So, it is time for me to apply for FAC. This is what I'm currently planning to ask for: Section 1 pump shotgun for PSG and 0.22LR semi for target shooting and a 0.270 bolt action target shooting/stalking (moderator also), and a 0.303 bolt action for target shooting (military competion at club) and a 0.357 lever action for target/competition. (Of course the .22 semi is in a question with this stupid EU ban thing... ) Thoughts gentlemen? Advice? Pls don't slaughter me if I made a mistake in my thinking process. Never had FAC, all new to me. Hence the post. Edited December 2, 2015 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 As long as you're a full member at appropriate clubs, then you shouldn't have any problems with the PSG, 22LR, 303 or 357. The 270 with a stalking condition you'll probably need to show evidence - booked stalk, syndicate (though a lot of forces try to insist on DSC1 these days if not for booked stalk, it seems). Apart from that, I'd question the 22 semi-auto for target shooting. Dedicated target rifles (by which I mean the best and most accurate target rifles) are all bolt action. However, you just apply for a 22LR, no need to mention the action and restrict yourself now. The only other thing that I can think a cautious (or officious) FEO might try to knock you back on would be so many on a first application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I asked for moderators on all my rifles, no issues even for target rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Got full membership at a club where I could shoot all these calibers. Got 3 paid stalks booked in the next 3 months, got a week booked in the summer at Scotland stalking/salmon fishing, been on paid stalks Got no DSC1 but it is on my next year agenda. Been adviced at the my club to apply for 5 different things. So, if I see something else could apply for a variation. Also there are regular various competitions at the club. How am I participate if I don't have the correct gun? Can the FEO say: "OK, You can apply only for 3" Thx for advice by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 As a club shooter I got on first application Sec 1 shotgun, .22 bolt, .22 semi, .44 underlever, .223 and .308, mods for all If you can justify it to the FEO you can have it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 i have my .357 rossi conditioned for aolq as well as for target use so its worth asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Cheers guys! One more question: what quantity of ammunition should I ask for /caliber? Edited December 2, 2015 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69chris Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) i have 100 x .38s, 100 x .357m, 100 x .308, 300 x hmr and 600 x .22lr, could have prob asked for much more if i did more target work but tbh i didnt want to buy a bigger safe and my current ammo safe fits that much in it comfortably, plus if i run low the gun shop is only in the town and thats another happy excuse to spend even more cash on our rather expensive hobby Edited December 2, 2015 by 69chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Depends. Do you intend reloading ? How often do you shoot ? You used to be given 2 quantities - one for acquire, and one for hold. Which made no sense at all. These days, you're just given a hold quantity. I'm allowed to hold 600 22LR, and 200 223Rem. Which isn't bad, though I'd ideally have liked a larger allowance, especially for the 223. Both rifles are used for target and pest control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Prawn Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I think standard ammo in west Mercia is 600 rimfire and 250 centre fire amounts for each calibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 One more question: if I like to reload, how do I do that? (Meaning do I need a licence to buy powder, bullets?) Or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 You will need an fac to by expanding bullets and show your licence to the rfd for primers I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I have 2 guns at the moment, both aolq and target shooting. A .44 Mag Rossi 92 underlever with a 400 round allowance and a .22 LR GSG 522 semi auto with a 2000 round allowance. I intend on getting a variation this month for .303 or 7.62x54R depending whether i'm to buy a British Lee or a Russian Mosin.......choices! As long as you can show good reason (which is your club) then you should have no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Reloading is great fun and to be honest if you are target shooting then it is the way forward both in terms of accuracy and the massive cost saving. I use a Lee handpress and the whole setup was around £80. Bearing in mind that .44 Magnum Prvi is around £53 a hundred and my reloads cost me around £15. I've lost count of how many times i've reloaded my Starline brass. You can buy target bullets through the post and you'll only need your licence for primers. Edited December 7, 2015 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlewis Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 When I applied for FAC after becoming full member of a rifle club I put in for .22 rim fire, .223/5.56, .243,.308/7.62, .303. Always put both cals down for .223 and .308 as you will only be able to buy what's on the rifle. FEO knocked me back on the .243 as I had a choice either .308 or .243 not allowed 2 deer cals. As for ammo I put in for 1000 .22 rim fire as bulk buying works out cheaper and got, 500 of .223/5.6, 300 of .303 and 300 of .308/7.62. As for reloading that's all I have done with .308 and will be with .303 and .223 as stated it does work out cheaper and more accurate compared to cheap ammo. The fire arms dealer will only need to see your FAC for primers and expanding bullet heads and records any sells of manufactured ammo on your FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Thx for answers guys! Just filling papers, asked for 600 on 0.22 and 250 on each other caliber. On the deer caliber I've put down target and stalking as a reason. Should I have used the "aolq" instead of? Also how do You buy gunpowder? Discussed reloading with my RFD, not many options for the 0.303... Edited December 7, 2015 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 For buying modern smokeless powder, you just walk into the RFD and purchase. No paperwork required at all, as long as you stay under a certain quantity for storage at home (think it's 10kg, which is quite a lot, I always have under 1kg) Black powder is a different matter, I believe. You need an explosives licence, etc. So, for target shooting : Primers, production of your FAC, collect in store (horribly expensive to courier) Powder, collect in store (again, expensive to courier). FMJ bullets, collect in store, or get them posted to you, cheap postage (also called 'heads', though expect the grammar-reloading-nazis to complain if you do), The primers and any primed brass MUST be kept in secure storage, as if loaded rounds (note however that until fully assembled they do NOT count towards your allowance). The FMJ bullets and powder can be stored wherever you like, though a secure, dry (but not too warm) location is ideal (powder 'ages' faster with heat) For stalking, the only difference is the expanding bullets. Those you must show your FAC, they will be entered onto your FAC, and they count towards your total allowance (so ask for an extra allowance). They cannot be posted, and must be securely stored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert 888 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Don't tell the feo you want to buy in bulk because it's cheaper, you want buy in bulk to have matching rounds for target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Another q: do i have to put down expanding bullets for the deer caliber on the ammunition sheet? Or is that included in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Looks fine but a 270 is not great for target shooting there are better options to cover both stalking and target, 308 for example but if you want a 270 go for it that's why we have options!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisv Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Welshwarrior beat me to it, I would also worry about 270 for target shooting. Fine if it's just informal fun/ practice for deer stalking. If you were doing it regularly and wanted to use the rifle for both, I would consider 308, but there's also 260, 6.5x55, 7mm-08 which would give a better choice of target bullet than 270. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted December 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Target shooting with the 270 is practice for me on the range. And zeroing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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