STOTTO Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Debate?? Seems to have the credentials! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint1 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Religion isn't the scourge at all, it's the people in those religions that make up the rules and force them on people that are the scourge. Yes that's true. Join the BHA anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hamster - I might be in a minority - I might not - I don't really care. I have found your posts thought provoking, interesting and valid. Flashman - you have another valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hamster - I might be in a minority - I might not - I don't really care. I have found your posts thought provoking, interesting and valid. Flashman - you have another valid point. Thank you I am sincerely and humbly touched when anyone bothers to read my posts on certain matters. It is a sad fact of modern life that we simply do not get true, unfettered news so sometimes it's useful hearing things from a different perspective. Simplistically speaking I too wished religion would get either erased or totally separated from world politics but realistically the best we can do is live with its consequences. I abhor what Saudi's have done but also feel ashamed at the Iranian leaderships lack of foresight in not preventing yet another embassy looting to take the place, the tiny shred of moral high ground they had has now been all but lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Some times the truth hurts . Harnser What truth. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Just out of interest, what are you a Dr of? Now Les*1066, If wanted you to know information like that I would have it on my profile. Or I would PM you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Some times the truth hurts . Harnser Harnser. Don't be an idiot. I have seen some your comments on here over the years. I would have given you more credit that thinking there is any validity in comparing a part of the United Kingdom with an autocratic regime in the Middle East? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I doint remember the government having public executions in NI. Like it or not the people in power are voted for in free and fair elections unlike in Saudi Arabia. Do they not have church and other religious parades in England. ? What government organised Public punishments are there in NI. ? Men in black balaclavas handing out punishment beatings and "disappearing" people? Ireland or IS? Terrorists in power? Ireland or IS? Huge religious marches that require riot police? Oops, only Ireland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I see your ignorant in both senses of the word. Unlike other posts, I won't credit your garbage with a response it doesn't deserve. Across the Irish Sea, is that code for, "oops, I live in an IS clone?"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Now Les*1066, If wanted you to know information like that I would have it on my profile. Or I would PM you. Can we guess ? Do you talk to the animals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les*1066 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Now Les*1066, If wanted you to know information like that I would have it on my profile. Or I would PM you. Just another keyboard warrior, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Men in black balaclavas handing out punishment beatings and "disappearing" people? Ireland or IS? Terrorists in power? Ireland or IS?Huge religious marches that require riot police? Oops, only Ireland Are you having with the difficulty with the concept, of the difference between a democratic society like NI and dictatorship like saudi arabia. People handing out their own form of punishment happens in most countries not just NI. Are people not mudered in England and disappeared. ? Are their not riots in England. ? Are their not vigilante attacks in England. ? PS The fact that you post Ireland when talking about Northern Ireland showes you haven't got a clue about this place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Just another keyboard warrior, then. I am very disappointed. I would have hoped that my comments would have given an indication that the day job is slightly more than a key board warrior. I find these debates a bit of recreational sport with people who share a passion for field sports. I don't take them too seriously. But there you go. I am clearly self delusional. Anyhow, I am not one who believes that qualificaitons are necessary to take part in forum debates. Edited January 5, 2016 by Dr D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) Across the Irish Sea, is that code for, "oops, I live in an IS clone?"? Can we guess ? Do you talk to the animals ? Yeh got it in one. I spend quite alot of time on here conversing with you lot. 😀 Edited January 5, 2016 by Dr D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Are you having with the difficulty with the concept, of the difference between a democratic society like NI and dictatorship like saudi arabia. People handing out their own form of punishment happens in most countries not just NI. Are people not mudered in England and disappeared. ? Are their not riots in England. ? Are their not vigilante attacks in England. ? PS The fact that you post Ireland when talking about Northern Ireland showes you haven't got a clue about this place. Your wasting your breath. And we are now way of topic. Although, of course you are totally correct in everything said. It's pretty sad really the fellow citizens of the UK know so very little about Northern Ireland. You lot should consider a long weekend in Belfast. Plenty to do, food superb, people friendly. A long cry from the bad old days. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjw4233 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 My take on the current situation is that the price of oil is that low at the moment, Saudi Arabia is trying to create tension in the whole region to push up the price of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Your wasting your breath. And we are now way of topic. Although, of course you are totally correct in everything said. It's pretty sad really the fellow citizens of the UK know so very little about Northern Ireland. You lot should consider a long weekend in Belfast. Plenty to do, food superb, people friendly. A long cry from the bad old days. Thank goodness. I have most certainly spent a long weekend in Ulster . From August 71 to October 72 . And yes I did meet some lovely people and made some good friends . I also met some of the most evil people that walked the streets of Belfast . I don't know how old you are and wether you can remember the troubles at that time ? I was there at the beginning and it was not a nice place to be . I was with the security forces but not in the military . In all the time I was there I only had 21 days leave to be at home with my family . Whilst I was there 4 of my Irish collegues who I worked with were murdered some thing that I have never got over . Yes I do know Ulster and do you know what , I loved the place . Harnser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just another keyboard warrior, then. Don't rise to it Doc. Turns out that Les wasn't actually at the Battle of Hastings... Anyway, to keep things on topic, I would point out that IS might be tough, but its worth considering the brutality and arbitrary attitude to the rule of law that is reported to go on in North Korea and sundry other despotic states. LS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) I have most certainly spent a long weekend in Ulster . From August 71 to October 72 . And yes I did meet some lovely people and made some good friends . I also met some of the most evil people that walked the streets of Belfast . I don't know how old you are and wether you can remember the troubles at that time ? I was there at the beginning and it was not a nice place to be . I was with the security forces but not in the military . In all the time I was there I only had 21 days leave to be at home with my family . Whilst I was there 4 of my Irish collegues who I worked with were murdered some thing that I have never got over . Yes I do know Ulster and do you know what , I loved the place . Harnser Harnser. I was born at the height of the troubles and grew up during them. It is an unrecognisable place from the 70s. You should definitely consider a visit if possible. I guarantee it is not Saudi Arabia. Not very long ago the UN judged Belfast to one of the safest cities in the world!!! And I could believe it. Large cruise liners dock in Belfast regular these days before heading on to Iceland Norway etc... Yes, it has its problems. They may be different from other places and because of what most consider to be history get alot of attention, but I can tell you something go out in Belfast on Friday or Saturday night and the people in the restaurants, bar and shops are not living in a place anything like Saudi. You know what they said in the past, "we love visitors its each other we have problems with". Less so these days. Edited January 7, 2016 by Dr D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Don't rise to it Doc. Turns out that Les wasn't actually at the Battle of Hastings... Anyway, to keep things on topic, I would point out that IS might be tough, but its worth considering the brutality and arbitrary attitude to the rule of law that is reported to go on in North Korea and sundry other despotic states. LS Absolutely. If want to see brutality N Korea would be top of the list. As for the rule is f law, well the law is what kim wants it to be depending on what side of the bed he gets out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr D Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have most certainly spent a long weekend in Ulster . From August 71 to October 72 . And yes I did meet some lovely people and made some good friends . I also met some of the most evil people that walked the streets of Belfast . I don't know how old you are and wether you can remember the troubles at that time ? I was there at the beginning and it was not a nice place to be . I was with the security forces but not in the military . In all the time I was there I only had 21 days leave to be at home with my family . Whilst I was there 4 of my Irish collegues who I worked with were murdered some thing that I have never got over . Yes I do know Ulster and do you know what , I loved the place . Harnser Oh and Harnser my respect and gratitude goes to everyone who during dark days stood on the side of law and order and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 ordnance, on 05 Jan 2016 - 7:25 PM, said: Are you having with the difficulty with the concept, of the difference between a democratic society like NI and dictatorship like saudi arabia. People handing out their own form of punishment happens in most countries not just NI. Are people not mudered in England and disappeared. ? Are their not riots in England. ? Are their not vigilante attacks in England. ? PS The fact that you post Ireland when talking about Northern Ireland showes you haven't got a clue about this place. Yes, the Troubles didn't happen, everything's fine, nothing to see here... What's it like in La La Land, where the past is forgotten when it suits? PS: I don't care about Ireland vs. Northern Ireland: it's a lack of concern, not lack of knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Your wasting your breath. And we are now way of topic. Although, of course you are totally correct in everything said. It's pretty sad really the fellow citizens of the UK know so very little about Northern Ireland. You lot should consider a long weekend in Belfast. Plenty to do, food superb, people friendly. A long cry from the bad old days. Thank goodness. I engaged in financing infrastructure projects over there. Having to care which colour of religious zealot - orange or green - held which cabinet post and therefore controlled funding was a lesson in bungs, kickbacks and horse trading that we don't have on the Mainland any more. Well done, Sirs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Yes, the Troubles didn't happen, everything's fine, nothing to see here... What's it like in La La Land, where the past is forgotten when it suits? No one is dening what happened i lived trough it and the past is not forgotten especially by the friends and famalies of the murdered and injured. But we are talking about Saudi Arabia and the present not past. If you want a discussion on N/I open a new thread but it woint last long. I engaged in financing infrastructure projects over there. Having to care which colour of religious zealot - orange or green - held which cabinet post and therefore controlled funding was a lesson in bungs, kickbacks and horse trading that we don't have on the Mainland any more. Well done, Sirs! Give us some examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Flashman, on 07 Jan 2016 - 08:09 AM, said: I engaged in financing infrastructure projects over there. Having to care which colour of religious zealot - orange or green - held which cabinet post and therefore controlled funding was a lesson in bungs, kickbacks and horse trading that we don't have on the Mainland any more. Well done, Sirs! Give us some examples. No. I won't thanks. I'm not here to give you a free education if you don't have experience of dealing with local authorities, regional governments, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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