escortmagnum999 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Evening ladies and gents, I'm at my wits end with my 15 month old lab. Most of his training is going really well, he's retrieving well, he hunts brilliantly but he's just absolutely mad when he gets more than 30 yards from me. He literally just tears around running as fast as he can, he does come back, but when it suits him and after a fair bit of verbal abuse and swearing from me. He also runs off when he sees another dog, even if it's half a mile away!! It's starting to become a problem/worrying me that sooner or later he'll run over a road and either be squashed or cause an accident!! Would a shock collar be worth a go? Any advice would be great, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 The most important part of his training ie the recall is obviously not going well. No shock collar apart from the one you need. Don't let him get to 30m before blowing the recall whistle. If he fails to respond put him on a very long lead so you have total control over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 The dog wants training. That's the answer to your problem. Start from the beginning again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Thanks for a quick reply JDog, Il give it a go. To be honest Iv put mountains of time into him, but he's never been very good on recall, and when he's gone he's gone ie running to see other dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 You state that most of his training is going really well, there lies your problem before you moved on to other parts of the training you should have established sit, stay, recall, and heel work, you've moved on a little early, if you know an established dog trainer seek some assistance it'll be worth in the long run best on luck chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0850 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 You state that most of his training is going really well, there lies your problem before you moved on to other parts of the training you should have established sit, stay, recall, and heel work, you've moved on a little early, if you know an established dog trainer seek some assistance it'll be worth in the long run best on luck chap. This is it in a nutshell...I've learnt a lot with my lab and have to admit the basics have to bomb proof and always reinforced before hunting etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Back to basics. When you ask for a sit it means SIT. The same goes for recall. Start at home then progress from there. You have not cemented the commands before moving on and generalising in differing situations . Go back and start again, all is not lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I've just re-read your first post and all is not going well if he won't sit or recall every time. Everything else is based on those precepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) This http://youtu.be/t84Ajkj1lck And buy this book. http://www.snazal.com/total-recall-dog--puppy-training-tricks-tips-carin--DEALMAN-U3-Recall-1496.html?gclid=CN2vvvOX_coCFUrlwgoduAkFAw many dog owners struggle to manage their dogs, and the vast majority of people who need help have one simple but overwhelming problem: their dog won't come back when they call him or her. An international bestseller, this book is divided into three parts: 1. Preparation: all the information you'll ever need in order to prepare and support yourself and your dog as you work through the training programme, including information on how your dog learns, practical training with rewards and beyond training. 2. A detailed Recall Training Programme complete with exercises to work through. In other words, the 'how to' section of the book where you'll learn puppy recall; pre-recall for older dogs; basic recall; on location training and ultimately recall for life. 3. The problem solving section, where you can discover why you got into difficulties in the past and learn how to avoid making the same mistakes again in the future. Enjoy your training journey, improve your relationship and have fun with your dog! It cured my mates terrier pup from chasing sheep! Edited February 16, 2016 by WelshAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Thanks for all the replies, great advice, I feel marginally better about him now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I'm not too far from you give me a pm and I' ll be happy to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Thanks pontbeck, il be in touch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Don't despair. It's a bit like having children - they are all different, they respond differently to `training` and some mature at different rates. And - we're not all perfect parents (dog trainers). I echo the previous comments. Get the basics absolutely nailed on - this does not mean losing your cool or getting angry with the dog. This just confuses them. Repeat, repeat, repeat. It is also about building a rapport with the dog. Why don't you give us some feedback on him? I would like you to score the following from 1 to 10. 1= can't/won't do it. 5= does it some of the time. 10=complies all of the time Walk to heel (off lead) straight line 10m Walk to heel (off lead) 10m `box` (you turn left/right every 10m to end up back where you started) Walk to heel on lead (without pulling) Sit on voice command (when at heel) Sit on whistle command (when at heel) Sit on voice command (when at distance) Sit on whistle command (when at distance) Sit and stay (voice or whistle) and walk away 5m no follow (he stays where he is) Sit and stay (voice or whistle) and walk away 10m no follow (he stays where he is) Recall (voice) Recall (whistle) Also: When he is sitting next to you, does he start to fidget, lie down or appear to get distracted easily? If so, after how long? When he sees other dogs does he `switch off` (go deaf!) and want to go play? When he retrieves, does he bring it back to you or appear to want to play? What sort of `toys` does he have at home Is he kept indoors/outdoors Sorry about the 20 questions but it would be interesting to see what the `basics` are like and it will help understand his behaviour a bit more. He sounds to me a bit immature but I'll reserve judgement for now. Any chance of a photo as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I scored my wife based on the previous post and she came out with a total of 11 points. She must try harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I scored my wife based on the previous post and she came out with a total of 11 points. She must try harder. Well good sir you are generous to a fault. ( take a stick to her ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Well good sir you are generous to a fault. ( take a stick to her ). I understand he beats her with the pink stick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I understand he beats her with the pink stick... Well im blowed.............that is the most LEWD comment you have ever come out with on this forum....take 3 points............ back to the thread... start using the recall command whistle at every feeding time.....make him sit and put the bowl down...and teach him patience...also sit him up and walk in circles around him and keep eye contact....never tell him off by shaking the scruff of the neck.....grab him by the throat and drop your voice and sound menacing....if you dont get onto of this now...its curtains.....good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I scored my wife based on the previous post and she came out with a total of 11 points. She must try harder. Can you video her and post here so we can try to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escortmagnum999 Posted February 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thanks for some great advice, it's certainly put my mind at rest. Iv gone back to basic training this week and he's been pretty responsive, time will tell!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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