marlin1 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Anybody on here making payments to the CSA. Made last payment in January and thought at freedom at last... Now been told I owe £4500 back pay. ?:lol:? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 what the hell for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 paid the csa for 12 years £550 pounds per month started off with £5500 arrears nothing but a bunch of w*****s eagleye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin1 Posted April 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Have now got to pay until 2009 for arrears..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 with mine they took 33% of pay after tax and the arrears were 7% grand total of 40% of take home pay eagleye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naddan28 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 My stepdad at one point was better off giving up worth and signing on the dull than actually working! He didn't but bonkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin1 Posted April 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Just really pee me off, have deduction of order on my wages so cant miss a payment..... Have been told each time they review my payments I have to pay from the day they start to review it. If it takes them two months to make a decision I am then it with back pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 christ thats a mortgage on its own, how do you afford that on top of everyday living? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDeeds Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 My stepdad at one point was better off giving up worth and signing on the dull than actually working! He didn't but bonkers! I missed one payment last year and they wanted to up my payments by £100 every month to help pay the arrears (about £3000), and deduct it from my wages. I told them I couldn't afford another £100 - they said there was no choice, so I said... "yes there is. You put me out of work 12 years ago when I had a nervous breakdown due to financial difficulties that YOU caused - I couldn't afford it then. Been there, done that, and ain't affraid to be out of work again. So if you deduct an extra £100 at source, and I can't afford to live, then it isn't worth working, is it. So you do what you've gotta do, and I'll do what I've gotta do - I might just loose my job due to financial pressures." Then I slammed the phone down. 15 mins later they phoned me back to say that they can accept a minimum of about £5 per week off of the arrears and that it would continue on a standing order. Result! :-) The bitch is I'm paying £350 a month for a daughter that I haven't seen for 12 years. Her mother 'influenced her' and then stated that when she did see me (once or twice in the early days) that she would have an epileptic fit - I didn't have the finances to take it to court, and I didn't want to drag my daughter through the system. It's a sick system we've got here. Because my daughter is in full time education, I'm told I have to pay for her until she reaches 19. But legally in this country you're an adult at 18 and can fend for yourself. A friend at work has a letter stating that now his daughter is 18 he is no longer financially responsible (she's still in education), so I'm going to see if I can sort it the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 The CSA is probably the worst run, badly managed and ineptly directed of all the government "services". Its seen as the "graveyard" of all governmental services. No wonder they come in for so much stick they clearly deserve it. The whole point was to make sure children didn't loose out, yet through their actions they put fathers through hell and often make the situation worse. Anyone know of a situation where a mother has had to pay? Don't want to sound sexitst, but **** it, if women want to play on the same playing field, then they have an equal share of everything, yet kids always get placed with mothers. Positive discrimination they call it, class one liberty I call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 I feel really sorry for you guys. I've got a couple of lads work for me who are in their early 20's. We have to take money out of their pay packets for a one night stand when they were in their teens and they never get to see the kids or even speak to the kids mums. Something deeply wrong with this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 i thought if you cant see the kids you dont pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 (edited) i thought if you cant see the kids you dont pay. I got a department full of stories.... Edited December 10, 2008 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 i thought if you cant see the kids you dont pay. If so my blackout sunglasses idea would have made me a millionaire by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I feel really sorry for you guys. I've got a couple of lads work for me who are in their early 20's. We have to take money out of their pay packets for a one night stand when they were in their teens and they never get to see the kids or even speak to the kids mums. Something deeply wrong with this system. Theres something deeply wrong with this goverment and the way they run OUR country. If ONLY there was somone they would listen to, somone to put Britain back onto its feet.. somone to give us all a chance. Im finding it veryyy difficult to find work in welding and engineering (now going to go self imployed instead) because Britains industry is becoming more dry then the Sahara desert, the goverment has been far too cheeky in taking taxes and charging us for everything for far too long A lot of good companies have closed down, and people have moved off to Aussie, Canada etc to get their jobs. It really feels like that shiny sign.. 'Great' Britain has now become dusty, and wont be cleaned or polished for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Brings this sorry tale to mind.......................... GORDON AND THE DONKEY. A young man named Gordon bought a donkey from an old farmer for £100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day, but when the farmer drove up he said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news... the donkey is on my truck, but unfortunately he's dead. Gordon replied, "Well then, just give me my money back." The farmer said, "I can't do that, because I've spent it already. Gordon said, "OK then, well just unload the donkey anyway. The farmer asked, "What are you going to do with him?" Gordon answered, "I'm going to raffle him off." To which the farmer exclaimed, "Surely you can't raffle a dead donkey!" But Gordon, with a wicked smile on his face said, "Of course I can, you watch me. I just won't bother to tell anybody that he's dead." A month later the farmer met up with Gordon and asked, "What happened with that dead donkey?" Gordon said, "I raffled him off, sold 500 tickets at two pounds apiece, and made a huge, fat profit!!" Totally amazed, the farmer asked, "Didn't anyone complain that you had stolen their money because you lied about the donkey being dead?" To which Gordon replied, "The only guy who found out about the donkey being dead was the raffle winner when he came to claim his prize. So I gave him his £2 raffle ticket money back plus an extra £200, which as you know is double the going rate for a donkey, so he thought I was great guy!! Gordon grew up and eventually became the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and no matter how many times he lied, or how much money he stole from the British voters, as long as he gave them back some of the stolen money, most of them, unfortunately, still thought he was a great guy. The moral of this story is that, if you think Gordon is about to play fair and do something for the everyday people of the country for once in his miserable, lying life, think again my friend, because you'll be better off flogging a dead donkey. Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Brings this sorry tale to mind.......................... GORDON AND THE DONKEY. A young man named Gordon bought a donkey from an old farmer for £100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day, but when the farmer drove up he said, "Sorry son, but I have some bad news... the donkey is on my truck, but unfortunately he's dead. Gordon replied, "Well then, just give me my money back." The farmer said, "I can't do that, because I've spent it already. Gordon said, "OK then, well just unload the donkey anyway. The farmer asked, "What are you going to do with him?" Gordon answered, "I'm going to raffle him off." To which the farmer exclaimed, "Surely you can't raffle a dead donkey!" But Gordon, with a wicked smile on his face said, "Of course I can, you watch me. I just won't bother to tell anybody that he's dead." A month later the farmer met up with Gordon and asked, "What happened with that dead donkey?" Gordon said, "I raffled him off, sold 500 tickets at two pounds apiece, and made a huge, fat profit!!" Totally amazed, the farmer asked, "Didn't anyone complain that you had stolen their money because you lied about the donkey being dead?" To which Gordon replied, "The only guy who found out about the donkey being dead was the raffle winner when he came to claim his prize. So I gave him his £2 raffle ticket money back plus an extra £200, which as you know is double the going rate for a donkey, so he thought I was great guy!! Gordon grew up and eventually became the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and no matter how many times he lied, or how much money he stole from the British voters, as long as he gave them back some of the stolen money, most of them, unfortunately, still thought he was a great guy. The moral of this story is that, if you think Gordon is about to play fair and do something for the everyday people of the country for once in his miserable, lying life, think again my friend, because you'll be better off flogging a dead donkey. Pushkin VERY GOOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 CSA what a bunch o********* ************************************** ***************** Well i was paying £250 a month for two kids, one i have never seen, nor had any contact with, and last year they were both coming up for 17yrs old, my daughter with my ex has gone onto college, so will be paying for her till she is 19 or leaves college. My son(the one i have never seen) i did not know what he was doing so rang the CSA and asked for them to find out, after several phone calls and emails/letters i heard nothing, so i stopped paying to get them into action. I ended up with £3000 of arrears and now it is deducted from earnings at £100 per week I rang and told them i could not afford this amount, and what about my mortgage, the reply left me stunned "Your child support payments are more important than mortgage payments" so it's OK for me to lose my home and become homeless as long as the CSA get their money, "Yes". What really gets me though is the Child allowance (government payment) is £12-15 per week(correct me if i am wrong) so how do they work out we have to pay so much more. The worst is the guys this is supposed to get, still get away with not paying, while we suffer and so do our kids. My Thoughts are with the guy's who took their lives because of the CSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 You`ve got to be a certain kind of A hole to work for a department like that. When the wifes younger brother died of cystic fibrosis at 18 they still persued my father in law for "arrears" for a couple of years after. He was skint. He lost his home.His son. Lowlife unfeeling scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 When my parents divorced about 32 years ago there was no rules of this thing at all. My dad never paid a single penny towards my upkeep. The CSA is a terrible thing but something is needed. Just don't ask me how it is going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 When my parents divorced about 32 years ago there was no rules of this thing at all. My dad never paid a single penny towards my upkeep. The CSA is a terrible thing but something is needed. Just don't ask me how it is going to work. Can see your point there bud. If people just up and clear off leaving their family fending for themselves then its right in principle. But the CSA target the easy victims; honest people who want to work, dont disappear, and just want to see their kids after divorce, and pay an affordable amount for their upkeep. What they get is an opressive system that fleeces people till the pips squeek, no appeal, no access to their kids, getting the max from ordinary folk to make up for the fact that the cant get money from the real dossers. When i got divorced 13 years ago, i was picking up all the bills, the debts, the legal bills. I sorted out maintenance and access with the ex. The CSA would have wiped me out and the kids wouldnt have got most of the money. I was lucky. My kids mostly live with me now, but other people will tell you how vindictive ex wives can be. Turning their kids, eventually squeezing dad out of their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 when i paid the csa my ex pleaded poverty like only two holidays abroard per year and she could only afford to buy a brand new car every two years eagleye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 when i paid the csa my ex pleaded povertylike only two holidays abroard per year and she could only afford to buy a brand new car every two years eagleye Plenty of that going on mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 I agree with you, the CSA are leeches that automaticaly assume all men are ******** and are not willing to pay for their children. A balanced and fair system is needed that leaves everybody with enough money to live on is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEFTY478 Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 ........ A balanced and fair system is needed ........... "balanced and fair" What, in today's society! Christ Snakey, have you been on the Lavinder & Rosehip smelling salts, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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