12borebanger Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 As the title, any recommendations. Hope to be getting a spaniel at the end of the year. Planning for a springer but the Mrs is after a cocker so maybe nothing too specific. Or any other recommended literature for a prospective first time spaniel owner? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Only ever had one in my life training the rough shooters dog by PRA Moxon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawntredder Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 A great book I used to train my spaniel a sprocker which is a bit of both cocker & springer ha-ha is simply called "gundogs" their learning chain by Joe Irving,easy to follow and my bitch turned out just fine....read a chapter and do the training then the next and the next until you have a gundog to suit your needs fella...atb DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12borebanger Posted March 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 A little dated but Joe Irvine "Training Spaniels " is still among if not the best book on spaniel training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny tim Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 joe Irvine.. training spaniels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martindd Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 As above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Having raised and trained two springers in recent years, trying my best to follow the title mentioned above as well as a fair few others, I'd get a paperback copy so it's nice and easy to tear up with your bare hands. Every dog is different. I don't know where Joe Irving got his dogs from but they definitely weren't the same as mine. If I could start all over with my first one I think she would be amazing, but as I was not even into shooting at the time I got her, the things I did with here gave her a few undesirable habits! I've managed to undo the vast majority of faults I put into her but she wouldn't win any trials. Springer no. 2 is the hardest-going dog I could ever imagine. He's overflowing with raw instinct and enthusiasm, and I've just not been able to kep a lid on it. He's almost driven me to insanity. You can discipline and correct him a thousand times for the most simple misdemeanour and he will immediately do it again! He will NOT walk to heel on a lead despite endless attempts and all sorts of failed coersion methods. He's 4 now. I've been saying to myself for the last 3 years "He'll calm down a bit with age..." and I'm still holding out a little bit of hope but not much. The absolute worst three things you can do with a spaniel pup are: 1) Throw things for it 2) Show it shot game too soon (warm or cold) 3) Get it hunting live quarry too soon. Be prepared to accept the fact that if you're having a house-pet for the mrs to dote on it will never be the same as a kenneled gundog. People who have never trained gundogs do NOT understand the absolute necessity for NOBODY to throw things for the dog to run after. I've almost fallen out with friends over it, and ended up shutting my dogs in a different room. Ended up with my dog still to this day obsessed with fetching stones in from the back garden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 A little dated but Joe Irvine "Training Spaniels " is still among if not the best book on spaniel training. a superb book, certainly made it easy for me when training my springer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Have just bought a booklet entitled The Gundog Club by Pippa Mattinson its the first in a series and looks to be very well thought out, (in my limited experience) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12borebanger Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Nice one cheers guys, I know I'll have a lot to learn ano will be a steep learning curve, which no book will ever teach me, but hopefully it'll be a good starting point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozrob Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Having raised and trained two springers in recent years, trying my best to follow the title mentioned above as well as a fair few others, I'd get a paperback copy so it's nice and easy to tear up with your bare hands. Every dog is different. I don't know where Joe Irving got his dogs from but they definitely weren't the same as mine. If I could start all over with my first one I think she would be amazing, but as I was not even into shooting at the time I got her, the things I did with here gave her a few undesirable habits! I've managed to undo the vast majority of faults I put into her but she wouldn't win any trials. Springer no. 2 is the hardest-going dog I could ever imagine. He's overflowing with raw instinct and enthusiasm, and I've just not been able to kep a lid on it. He's almost driven me to insanity. You can discipline and correct him a thousand times for the most simple misdemeanour and he will immediately do it again! He will NOT walk to heel on a lead despite endless attempts and all sorts of failed coersion methods. He's 4 now. I've been saying to myself for the last 3 years "He'll calm down a bit with age..." and I'm still holding out a little bit of hope but not much. The absolute worst three things you can do with a spaniel pup are: 1) Throw things for it 2) Show it shot game too soon (warm or cold) 3) Get it hunting live quarry too soon. Be prepared to accept the fact that if you're having a house-pet for the mrs to dote on it will never be the same as a kenneled gundog. People who have never trained gundogs do NOT understand the absolute necessity for NOBODY to throw things for the dog to run after. I've almost fallen out with friends over it, and ended up shutting my dogs in a different room. Ended up with my dog still to this day obsessed with fetching stones in from the back garden. with you on this one, my sprocker is now 3 , she is brilliant odd times , (she knows what is expected of her , shes done it.) and uncontrollable the rest. joe irvings book is ok , but one of the most important parts of training , dont let your dog run around in big open spaces when its young - is mentioned right near the end of joes book. hence why my dog is a nutter when out. cheers. loz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Much better to get a set of DVDs, David Lisset's are the best IMO. Books are fine, but seeing a pup or dog in action on a DVD offers a much more helpful view on where you want to get to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemyheckler Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Joe Irvine for book and David Lisett for DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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