gav05 Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I just don't get the pricing on some of them the second hand maket is mad trucks that are 6 years old with over 100'000 miles still going for 9 to 12 grand some then plus vat is it just me or do they really hold there value that much what's the average life of one after this age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hilux seem to others aren't so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyg1086 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 They are all more expensive than a standard 4x4 so it's hard for the average man like me who is not willing to get into that much debt over a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav05 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 They all seam quiet a bit more expensive than say a second hand car in the same age and condition. For example a ford ranger on a 08 plate with 120.000 on the clock £10500 probably cost £20.000 ish new then a ford focus on a 11 plate probably cost £18.000 new is only worth £5k bur my main point was not so much the cost bit the life left in a vehicle that is 7 or 8 years old with 120.000 on the clock. I know all the pickups have faults but for a 08 with say 80.000 ish are they a risk to buy or a money pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Depends on the life they've had. You wouldn't buy a Gamekeepers pickup, or farmers... they've worked hard and been beat to hell. But one that's been bought as an image/lifestyle statement and has never seen much dirt will be fine. 200,000miles is nothing to modern vehicles - depending the make you go for. Some have well known faults, others are very reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 They are trendy at the moment people need the curent trend, pickups are in at the moment if you had a tatoo parlor and a forecourt full of pickups in the plot next door you would have a little gold mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I don't think it is just a trend.pick ups have commanded a premium price for many decades. And the top of the pile is and always has been the hilux .that tells a story of its own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I'm not sure there's a bad one out there now, and some very wealthy people I know have pick ups as well as their cars. One has his own tarmac company and has just bought himself £90,000 worth of Jaguar but still has his Ford pick up. It doesn't do any work but it suits his image. Another owns a top level Range Rover Sport but does most of his driving in a Hilux which he bought for getting his trade stand to a local game fair...once a year. He is fat and admits he looks like a ####. Another has what I consider to be the best, based on nothing more than personal choice, ( apart from the Defender crew cab of course which arguably hold their value better than any other ) which is a Daihatsu, and another has just bought himself the latest model in the Nissan range; first one I've seen. Only the Daihatsu is used for work. Pick ups are now high spec' luxury vehicles and I would think the most revered are the Hilux, though I still prefer the older crew cab to the present one. There are some very good examples of the latter still knocking about around here, a couple of which are immaculate. I would go so far as to suggest the Hilux is gaining icon status, but it will never surpass the iconic status of the Landrover, and in particular the Defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 I'm not sure there's a bad one out there now, and some very wealthy people I know have pick ups as well as their cars. One has his own tarmac company and has just bought himself £90,000 worth of Jaguar but still has his Ford pick up. It doesn't do any work but it suits his image. Another owns a top level Range Rover Sport but does most of his driving in a Hilux which he bought for getting his trade stand to a local game fair...once a year. He is fat and admits he looks like a ####. Another has what I consider to be the best, based on nothing more than personal choice, ( apart from the Defender crew cab of course which arguably hold their value better than any other ) which is a Daihatsu, and another has just bought himself the latest model in the Nissan range; first one I've seen. Only the Daihatsu is used for work. Pick ups are now high spec' luxury vehicles and I would think the most revered are the Hilux, though I still prefer the older crew cab to the present one. There are some very good examples of the latter still knocking about around here, a couple of which are immaculate. I would go so far as to suggest the Hilux is gaining icon status, but it will never surpass the iconic status of the Landrover, and in particular the Defender. Wasn't it the Hilux that Clarkson drowned/crashed/dropped from heights and still kept running?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Wasn't it the Hilux that Clarkson drowned/crashed/dropped from heights and still kept running?? it certainly was and it was also the hilux that went to the north pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn2233 Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Wasn't it the Hilux that Clarkson drowned/crashed/dropped from heights and still kept running??he sure did and couldn't kill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 Wasn't it the Hilux that Clarkson drowned/crashed/dropped from heights and still kept running?? Yep, it certainly was. Good episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Callahan Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 HiLux was already an icon before TopGear, but they affirmed it's status... it's status/reputation was why they chose to test it to destruction, over any other make. Theres a reason the Aussies say "a Land Rover will get you into the outback, but a Toyota will get you back out". Only reason you don't see many farms with them here, is because upto now they have had a very poor rated towing capacity. But the newly released model gets an upgrade this autumn, and can tow 3.5t asof Jan 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted August 4, 2016 Report Share Posted August 4, 2016 We had hiluxes as farm trucks from the first normaly asspirated 2.2s in 1977 to modern D4Ds they were always tough and reliable but the early diesels were no power houses or ecconony sultans. far from it, the Hi lux Top gear threw in the sea dropped from a building had a 2L or a 2LT 2.4 engine i cant remember now without noticing if it had a turbo on or not, either way both are pretty guttles lumps re power to be honest, not untill the 1993 1994 2.5 turbo hiluxes did they wake up on power compared to some very similar japs, and the latter ones just got better and better. the Hilux they went to the pole in is a TOYOTA sure enough but a very different animal to the one they chained down in the sea. And thats before it was modified for the pole. But you cant take away from hiluxes they are reliable, bbut the ultimate NO WAY< Put a 2.4 2LT 2.4 powered hilux up against a Daihatsu F75 DL turbo and watch the Daihatsu suck in the hilux and spit it out in tiny pieces. And mechanicaly engine wise electricaly its equaly as reliable as the toyota and indeed shares many common parts alternators even axles in non independent fourtaks. Top gears truck just had to keep running to be honest if i had been the lad trying to keep an engine going in these cercunstances i think i would have a DLturbo 2.8 over a 2LT turbo any day. Its gear driven for a start the Toyotas as a belt that could get trapped or damaged, the Daihats was not belt driven untill the EL turbo. Not slating Toyotas just keeping debate honest thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 The thing that has put me off hilux's is the lack of a decent economical engine and the cost. My other half has a rav 4 with the 2.2 150 Bhp engine which is great yet the hilux's mostly seem to now have the 3l which gets 30mpg at best. With regard to costs I am on my third l200 this one on an 09 cost me 10k two years ago with full history and 50k on the clock. Two years and 30k later it's needed nothing other than usual servicing averages about 33mpg with at tyres and a mix of on and off road. The equivalent hilux's were 50% more expensive at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav05 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm really torn between a ford ranger. Or l200. Probably 2011 / 2012 so 4/5 years old ideal want less than 50k on the clock and budget of around 10k 11 maybe. But they don't seam to exists they all have 120,000 plus. They all seam step to me on price if I go but a new one at 20k ish and only loose 10k in 5 years I think that's cheep motoring. 2k a year is nothing and no milage restrictions. It's a crazy market. 166 a month and a good cash lump back better than any lease deal out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I'm really torn between a ford ranger. Or l200. Probably 2011 / 2012 so 4/5 years old ideal want less than 50k on the clock and budget of around 10k 11 maybe. But they don't seam to exists they all have 120,000 plus. They all seam step to me on price if I go but a new one at 20k ish and only loose 10k in 5 years I think that's cheep motoring. 2k a year is nothing and no milage restrictions. It's a crazy market. 166 a month and a good cash lump back better than any lease deal out there. Or maybe £20k new worth £10k in 3 years (retail to trade) loosing just £3k a year is still nothing. I think we worry too much about a few quid here and there a bit of mpg here and there. One life live it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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