kingo15 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Mine new s3 black went back to the shop today, to get sent of to browning as its a rust bucket, not happy. I can see this being a long drawn out battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Where is the rust? Do you have any photos Edited September 6, 2016 by psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 And more interestingly, how old is it, and has it been rained on etc? 'rust' posts seems to send me into a paranoid mode where I get all worried about not cleaning the guns properly :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted September 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Purchased in June this year. Never been wet. I hate getting wet my self. I've sent comparisons of the other older shotguns in my cabinet just to prove a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exudate Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Did you notice it the first time you wiped down the metal work, as a red / brown residue on the cloth? Since bluing is a form of rust in itself, it might be residual from the bluing process. Keep the metalwork lightly covered in a thin layer of oil, at it might well disappear after a few wipe-downs. See what Browning say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I've been hearing a lot of this on different forums. Seems to be an issue with the recent Browning Black guns. I nearly bought a black 20g but glad I stuck with my Miroku's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 were is the rust do you have pictures Its good to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 The gun has gone back so don't have pics. The electors had bad rust,it's all around the firing pin area ( can't think of the technical name). There was rust in the serial number, barrel selector/ safety. Also on and around the barrel lever. Shame I liked the way the gun shot. But hey ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exudate Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Did you notice it the first time you wiped down the metal work, as a red / brown residue on the cloth? Since bluing is a form of rust in itself, it might be residual from the bluing process. Keep the metalwork lightly covered in a thin layer of oil, at it might well disappear after a few wipe-downs. See what Browning say. I've been hearing a lot of this on different forums. Seems to be an issue with the recent Browning Black guns. I nearly bought a black 20g but glad I stuck with my Miroku's now. I had the same thing with my new Benelli M2. First time I wiped the barrel down with oil, there was a slight rust residue on the cloth, which after a few times of wiping vanished completely. I wipe it down with an oily cloth every time I use it. The first incidence was over a year ago, and I've been shooting plenty of times in the rain since, which no signs of the rust reappearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Good luck with Browning UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) I guess Browning is another word for rusting... Edited September 7, 2016 by ChrisPCarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I wouldn't mind by my b525 which I brought new in 2014 I think it was, has been out in all sort of conditions and had a pooh loaf or cartridges through it is in loads better condition. I think it may be on going problem with the 725 but I'm sure browning will not do anything about it and blame me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 My b725 has no rust at all but its not the black version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I've heard it's just an issue with the black finish that isn't too good on some guns. Seems to be coming up quite a bit but Browning don't seem too interested from the reports I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I've heard it's just an issue with the black finish that isn't too good on some guns. Seems to be coming up quite a bit but Browning don't seem too interested from the reports I've read. I'm pretty sure they will go down the user error route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Have used my 725 uk on the shore last season and had no rust problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have a 525 and I heard about this rust issue when I bought it, but after a few thousand round this year it is exactly the same as when I bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipdog Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 My 525 rusts no mater what I do. When ever I get it out of the cabinet the chambers are full of rust. However it seems only surface and soon disappears with use! Although annoying, I still like my Browning and would love a 725! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanWalker Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 My 525 (Feb 16) always has a very fine surface rust on the standing breech and the breech ends of the barrels. Rubs off very easily so I just keep it as well oiled as possible and make sure it doesn't go back in the cabinet damp. All the other surfaces are very well finished and don't rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffjjack Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 In my experience its not just about putting the gun away damp.... When I move to the latest house ALL my guns had (after a week in the cabinet) suface rust on the inside and outside of the barrels. Our house is old with no cavity and the exterior walls are cold.... this means the guns are cold and condesnses any humitiy in the air... especially in winter. I have fitted a cabinet heater to ensure that the cabinet remains warm but there are packets that sit in the bottom of the cabinet to reduce damp, Certainly putting the gun away damp is a no no but cabinet conditions could be at fault... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingo15 Posted September 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 The gun never got damp or wet. Was always cleaned and wiped down before getting put away. There are 2 other guns in the cabinet that have no issues what so ever. If it weren't for the other guns then yes I could put it down to the storage conditions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I always clean my gun after every use - don't know if that is why. I would freak out if I had rust on one of my guns On another note, a bloke who owns a 725 was telling me the other day that the second trigger on his gun isn't cocked by recoil as it is on a 525, and that he thought he had less felt recoil because of that. What do you think 725 owners, any comment on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 The 725 publicity claims it has a mechanical trigger but it's really pseudo mechanical because it still has an inertia mechanism in order to work. In the US where the skeeters use sub gauge tubes they complain that they still need to have the inertia spring tuned to be able to set the 2nd barrel with very light loads. Either way it would have no measurable effect on recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyh Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 The 725 publicity claims it has a mechanical trigger but it's really pseudo mechanical because it still has an inertia mechanism in order to work. In the US where the skeeters use sub gauge tubes they complain that they still need to have the inertia spring tuned to be able to set the 2nd barrel with very light loads. Either way it would have no measurable effect on recoil. I've heard/read that as well. But can you explain how my 725 could fire both snap caps reliably every time without the inertial assistance of recoil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I've heard/read that as well. But can you explain how my 725 could fire both snap caps reliably every time without the inertial assistance of recoil? I saw an explanation a couple of years ago and I can't remember the details now, but it's not a true mechanical trigger system and I've seen posts on ShotgunWorld about 2nd barrel reset problems with subgauge tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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