which semi auto

[mossy835]

out the 2 would you buy,remington 1100,or armsan a612.

Edited September 11, 2016 by mossy835

[TONY R]

Armsans are apparently a good gun, And lets be frank about it the turkish gun jokes are old and without any real merit. they are largely sorted out now, and pretty mainstream.

Now the 1100 is OLD very old its the oldest still in production semi auto still available today its sold millions of units, they are a true legend and in my opinion far too overlooked, people just dont seem to give the 1100 the respect it deserves, they have been out there the faults are known there are no aspects of their performance that are unknown, if you want to know anything more on an issue that occurs in an 1100 info will be known, parts available and easily available at that.

If you want a mag latch circlip or a trigger group frame there will be a scrapper in the back of the local gunshop or one will be on their counter in a few days you can maintain an 1100 eassily.

I seriously doubt the knowledge base exists for the armsan or the plentifull parts availability from both the manufacturer and aftermarket suppliers that is presenbt for the 1100.

I am not decrying the armsan many swear by them, and dont doubt they are just fine, but when its up against an esstablished legend like the 1100 it has some serious hard yards to run before it catches up.

IMO GET THE 1100.

And before anyone says the one that fits you.... The Remington 1100 1187 and 870 range of shotguns are as close as it gets to a one size fits all shotgun, Remington did some research on this and got it right.

And the REM CHOKE system is one of the best factory choke systems ever, they pattern great from the factory with factory tubes, they work.

[sportsbob]

I supose if the remmy has a 3 inch chamber and is a multichocke than it might be ok, I have now had my Armsan for about 18 months and with approaching 5000 rounds through without one failure I reckon it must be ok.

[johnnytheboy]

Remmington!

[TDS]

Out of the two choices it would be definitely be Remington

Best handling semi ever and softest recoil, spares everywhere , spare barrels available fairly cheaply from 26" to 30"

Made with a steel receiver , even old one still look really tidy , the ejection port does not get chipped by cartridges like the aluminium guns

A doddle to strip and clean...a Rem 1100 holds the record for going 25,000 shots before cleaning , but clean mine after every use

Coincidentally came out in 1963 , the same year as the Winchester 101 and the stock dimensions on both are the same...i own both and easily swap between the two,

the only difference is felt recoil..

As Tony R says above the Remchokes are very good and finished quality is better than other factory multichokes

Factory extended chokes are made by Briley for Remington..must be good as Blaser uses the Remchoke system and will interchange .

[Scully]

It would have to be Remington for me also; there is just no comparison.

Incidentally,regarding chokes, Winchester Winchokes may fit the 1100 also; I know they fit the S&W 3000, which was made to compete with the Remington 870,

[snow white]

I have armsan 620 god nows how many rounds been through it never mist a beat

[CharlesP]

I'm convinced that my neighbour would tell you to avoid the Armsan at all costs. He's on his second one (the first was replaced, say the importers, as a "gesture of good will").

 

Granted it's a 20 bore version, but the standard of customer care from the importers has been very poor. Last Saturday he was at Pilford, a forty bird shoot. He experience five failures to feed. The cartridge nose jams in the rim of the chamber. The importers say there's nothing wrong with it and have provided the shop he bought it from with video evidence. The shop don't want to know. The implication is that he is fibbing about it, and there is a demand that he proves it's faulty.

 

That's not five out of forty, of course. Twenty of those are chambered manually. It's a 25% failure rate.

 

Go for the Remington, or indeed anything that doesn't involve Armsan or their importers.

[mossy835]

ok remington it is,

[snow white]

Charels p is he using home loads i used to get it with the maxus i had with home loads.

[throdgrain]

Out of the two choices it would be definitely be Remington

Best handling semi ever and softest recoil, spares everywhere , spare barrels available fairly cheaply from 26" to 30"

Made with a steel receiver , even old one still look really tidy , the ejection port does not get chipped by cartridges like the aluminium guns

A doddle to strip and clean...a Rem 1100 holds the record for going 25,000 shots before cleaning , but clean mine after every use

Coincidentally came out in 1963 , the same year as the Winchester 101 and the stock dimensions on both are the same...i own both and easily swap between the two,

the only difference is felt recoil..

As Tony R says above the Remchokes are very good and finished quality is better than other factory multichokes

Factory extended chokes are made by Briley for Remington..must be good as Blaser uses the Remchoke system and will interchange .

 

This. If on the off chance your 1100 or 11-87 does go wrong, you can buy the parts online from Midway or wherever. ​ ​I have lost count of how many rounds I've put through my 11-87 and the 1100 before that, excellent guns. Not saying there is much wrong with the other one, but the Remington is ahead of most things, let along a budget gun.

[CharlesP]

snow White, no he is using the right cartridges. 70mm cases, reputable brands, more than 26G loads. In fact many have been bought from the shop he got it from...