wymberley Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I got hauled over the coals on here for calling a case a cylinder - which, if you're in any way associated with the Royal Navy is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 How big are the heads in the navy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) How big are the heads in the navy? Room for one but sometimes there'll be two. PS By the way, a shell is not a cartridge but an explosive projectile. Edited November 22, 2016 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Language evolves, true, but not always for the better. While the widespread misuse of "literally" (usually in place of "figuratively") can be amusing ("I literally **** myself laughing"), it means there is literally no alternative word to convey that an incredible statement is an actuality. It may seem like pedantry to moan about the misuse of "head" but this term is already in use in describing another part of the cartridge (or more specifically, cartridge case.) If case-head separation occurs when you fire your gun does this describe: A) the projectile leaving the case and travelling down the barrel in the desired fashion? B) the result of dangerously high pressure causing catastrophic failure of the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) Isn't it sometimes caused by pulling the trigger and the head moving down the barrel? It's A isn't it? All those websites can't be wrong can they? Edited November 23, 2016 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Sorry to be an **** but case head separation is not always necessarily caused by excessive cartridge over pressure True enough- I've seen this with brass fired in a "generous chamber" then overworked during FL sizing in a "tight die". Incorrect annealing can also contribute (accidentally annealing the web.) Hmm. "Generous chamber" and "tight die" sound like euphemisms for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 True enough- I've seen this with brass fired in a "generous chamber" then overworked during FL sizing in a "tight die". Incorrect annealing can also contribute (accidentally annealing the web.) Hmm. "Generous chamber" and "tight die" sound like euphemisms for something. Know what I mean? Nudge, nudge. Wink, wink. Say no more"" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted November 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) For all those still insistent on calling cartridges, bullets and bullets, heads I have a fantastic infographic planned! Unfortunately, this one is a little more involved as I'm having to take the concept of shoulder, neck and 'head' to it's ultimate nadir. Preexisting terms for things like case head (which will become foot) can no longer be used; terms like 'case head separation' are now a good thing, but bullet case foot fracture - bad. The cartridge case rim becomes the ankle, the web the 'knee' and we can finally discuss things that make a lot more anthropomorphic sense, like 'my bullet case broke at the knee'. The names for parts of a bullet (now 'head') will be done away with, and we'll continue the naming convention so that previously titled 'boat tail bullets' will be called 'chinned' whereas those with a flat base become 'chinless wonders'. The bearing surface will become known as the 'face', the ogive becomes the 'eyebrow' and the radius, previously and confusingly tangent or secant (yeah, like that makes sense!) becomes the forehead - simples. The tip or metplat simply becomes the crown as it's the very top of the 'head'. We can have capped crowns (ballistic tip) or bald crowns (soft point) or empty crowns (hollow point). This should make perfect sense and, as terms move on, we should all be able to 'get over' this. I cannot wait to load heads into my newly named bullet cases, making bullets with an accurate measurement taken from the foot to the eyebrow (F2E) or to the crown (F2C) and providing overall length measurements in terms of BOL (bullet overall length). While I'm about it, it's about time I went metric too, so powder weights will no longer be provided in grains but rather grams and measurements will now be in millimetres only. This is the simplification we, in the UK, have all be waiting for. Edited November 23, 2016 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangbangman Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Take care when reloading 45Colt: they have thin ankles that can be easily torn or broken. Yep, this'll work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) we also need to start educating the flo's as well. that the chambering is not a caliber as asked for on the application form Edited December 4, 2016 by fruitloop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Yep, and missiles. I'm allowed to possess 800 of those bad boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 In three army the word 'rounds' covers everything. Magazines are loaded with 30 rounds. The rounds strike the target etc. Bullets 'heads' is just plain wrong and makes me angry. Along with people using "less" when they mean "fewer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 In three army the word 'rounds' covers everything. Magazines are loaded with 30 rounds. The rounds strike the target etc. Bullets 'heads' is just plain wrong and makes me angry. Along with people using "less" when they mean "fewer". Me too. And it really ****** me off when people start substituting numbers for the definite article - it's so unclear.... Lol only joking! Good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 I think they should make a special section on this forum for grammar Nazis and spelling pedants. I'd be on it all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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