mick miller Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Seems like a no-brainer to me, and we love a good cause here at PW. Usual bobby, get it to 100,000 and it's gets a discussion in Parliament. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/stop-violence-on-nhs-staff-nick-ferraris-petition/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iano Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 That seems a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really don't know what expectation people have from this sort of petition. It is nothing other than fretful hand wringing and another example of our mad clamour to introduce even more legislative burden. It is already an offence to assault someone and whether it has a specific offence code with greater consequence it will not change anything, but of course it achieves publicity and allows people to believe they are making a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Hmm, fair point. The Scots have already introduced this though in 2005. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/may/09/nhsstaff.politics Edited January 11, 2017 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Mick, I'm really not against it in principle, but in practice it makes a nice snappy soundbite and no meaningful difference. NHS staff in Scotland are still abused despite the specific offence. The abuse of NHS staff is of course a very real concern, however so is the abuse of staff on trains, shop assistants, traffic wardens, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I get your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 The abuse of NHS staff is of course a very real concern, however so is the abuse of staff on trains, shop assistants, traffic wardens, etc. I understand your point however, I think assault on blue light services often has larger ramifications, for instance fire service turn up to but a burning building out but are prevented due to being assaulted by louts, doctor who is needed to perform urgent surgery is taken out of action by drunk idiot assaulting them resulting in someone losing their life ect, if a shop assistant is assaulted (and I'm not minimising it here, still a disgusting crime that should be backed by the full weight of the law) the further ramifications mentioned earlier are not likely to effect further people to suffer loss of life. To sum up, I belive emergency services do require specific protection, whether or not a harsher punishment would prevent them being assaulted is another argument (one that I personally agree with you, I don't feel it would offer them any extra protection) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Seems like a no-brainer to me, and we love a good cause here at PW. Usual bobby, get it to 100,000 and it's gets a discussion in Parliament. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/stop-violence-on-nhs-staff-nick-ferraris-petition/ Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I understand your point however, I think assault on blue light services often has larger ramifications, for instance fire service turn up to but a burning building out but are prevented due to being assaulted by louts, doctor who is needed to perform urgent surgery is taken out of action by drunk idiot assaulting them resulting in someone losing their life ect, if a shop assistant is assaulted (and I'm not minimising it here, still a disgusting crime that should be backed by the full weight of the law) the further ramifications mentioned earlier are not likely to effect further people to suffer loss of life. To sum up, I belive emergency services do require specific protection, whether or not a harsher punishment would prevent them being assaulted is another argument (one that I personally agree with you, I don't feel it would offer them any extra protection) The judge has this liberty already as attacking a vulnerable person, or a nurse etc is aggravating factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 The judge has this liberty already as attacking a vulnerable person, or a nurse etc is aggravating factors.True although they are still bound by the normal sentencing tariffs for instance a section 20 ABH is a max 5 years (in reality 2.5 in prison 2.5 out on licence), by creating a new law they could give a much tougher sentence, but I digress. Petition signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Anybody assaulting any NHS worker automatic ban from the system ?. make these folk think twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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