Guest cookoff013 Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 ok, guys..... i just finished a reloading series and i absolutuely love feedback on the data. one of the first things a like to chat with people are cartridges. what is considered good or bad for whatever reason. the first question is, Q; is 36g of powershot maybe #6 too much for duck? loads are approx 1250fps at 2.5M, i`m not too sure whats recognised as decent, with the newer / newest nontoxics hw-13-15-18. essentially i just concentrate on the 1" in the chamber, thats where 99% of what i do concerns. i`ve used bismuth in the past on game , changed to steel, but havent made the jump to high cost shot. i tested copper, itx and powershot and niceshot. bismuth and copper i got 28gram in a 3" itx 29 gram, and 32g of bismuth and niceshot. all these loads are about the same speed / load out, but at the extreme of my testing was 25g steel and a large charge of powershot13. i did not really envisage what uses the shells would be great for, because the test was severely geard to internal ballistic "playtime". is 25g steel 1450fps #2 used commonly? is 36g powershot13 #6 1200fps ultimate for duck? is 29g itx at 1400fps suitable as a light game load. what would be the maximum yardage you`d take a premium nontoxic.... i`m slightly annoyed niceshot is not sold by clay and game now, as i just tested some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Out of interest, what diameter is the No 6 powershot and how many to the oz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) For me, 25gm steel 2 is a little low on pellet count for long range ducks. Whether or not the 36 gm powershot load is the 'ultimate' for duck is debateable. I think it would be very good, but too costly for ducks. Yesterday I had a flight at ducks where I shot 20+ cartridges. That is a very normal number for a duck flight for me, and I wouldn't want to fork out for 20+ powershot loads per session. I take it it's the 2.8mm you have? I have used 46gm of buffered HW13 2s on duck, when I forgot to change shells. They are very good. I'm sure a 29gm load of ITX would make a reasonable game load. Maximum yardage for premium non-toxic shot? Quite a lot, I imagine. Edited February 13, 2017 by motty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 For me, 25gm steel 2 is a little low on pellet count for long range ducks. Whether or not the 36 gm powershot load is the 'ultimate' for duck is debateable. I think it would be very good, but too costly for ducks. Yesterday I had a flight at ducks where I shot 20+ cartridges. That is a very normal number for a duck flight for me, and I wouldn't want to fork out for 20+ powershot loads per session. I take it it's the 2.8mm you have? I have used 46gm of buffered HW13 2s on duck, when I forgot to change shells. They are very good. I'm sure a 29gm load of ITX would make a reasonable game load. Maximum yardage for premium non-toxic shot? Quite a lot, I imagine. the steel #2 are us #2 and about 110pellets per 25gram or so (thats a guess). the 36g loads would be with a #6 standard 2.8 ish mm. the 29g of itx was quite a suprise really with the loading data...,. that stuff could be great value.. yeah, the 25g steel load was for cheap. its funny old stuff really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 the steel #2 are us #2 and about 110pellets per 25gram or so (thats a guess). the 36g loads would be with a #6 standard 2.8 ish mm. the 29g of itx was quite a suprise really with the loading data...,. that stuff could be great value.. yeah, the 25g steel load was for cheap. its funny old stuff really. I like ITX 10 in uk 4's, 32 to 36 gm for the few ducks and greylag i see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy baxendale Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 I have used HW13 in #2 and #4 for a couple of seasons on geese and it is devastating stuff when pointed in the right direction, I have no doubt that in a #6 it would be a great duck load and I'm sure you could drop down to more like 30grams, you wouldn't want to fire many shots though £$€ !! I see you also mention HW18; i have had a few discussions about this stuff recently and the reports on it are incredible. The cost would be utterly prohibitive as Wayne says....... but if one had money to burn.......... i suspect something like 30grams of HW18 no 7's or 8's would be a devastating duck load out to very long ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 i hear #9 tss18 is best due to pellet count. the problem with the stuff is getting quality data. i have the old sabot load data, but would be more inclined to create my own with european hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigeon jim Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 I only use power shot / hevi-shot for geese, 1 3/4oz , I find that 32 - 36 grams of steel shot # 2 or # 3 is plenty for ducks sometimes 36g of itx 10 if they are way out there, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted February 19, 2017 Report Share Posted February 19, 2017 To be honest steel out shoots most our abilities to the point is the heavy stuff worth it on the duck ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 I tend to agree with Edenman. I have found 3 inch , 36gr of no 3 will do for most of my duck shooting and BB for inland geee. True 3.5 inch 42 gr loads of no 2 were very good at high mallard , but for the run of the mill duck shooting 3 inch does the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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