nabbers Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) I have a year 2000 Yamaha 400 Kodiak quad. It works, but life would be easier I could take it onto the road for journeys of 5 miles or so . It isn't road registered, if I sell it I can get about £1000 for it but a newer one which is road registered would cost quite a lot more and might not be as reliable as mine. I cant afford new. I was wondering what to do, should I risk selling old reliable and buy something I don't know the history of? Or should I spend some money on getting this one road registered? Not sure where to start on that, reading the DOT government advice, seems I get an MOT and take it from there. Local garage said to got to be a bike place not car testing station.....anyone done the Quad MOT thing? Next insurance, how much is that? No online sites offering it, so its a phone call, whats your experience? Tyres, mine are those VVVVVV mud types a bit like tractor tyres. This quad is a workhorse around my place, pulling trailers about, fetching stuff from the lane end. The travelling on the road would mean its a useful spare vehicle for other errands. Head says sell, heart says keep, that boyish tonic toy thing some of us have! Edited April 23, 2017 by nabbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) register it as agricultural use like a tractor only going between fields and very little on road no test req.also can be tested as LIGHT UNBODIED MOTOR VEHICLE class 4 check mot classes on line .Hope this helps. Also tyres would have to be changed if not using as agricultural Edited April 23, 2017 by armsid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted April 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Thank you, the Agricultural classification would work well for me, I've ordered the form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted April 23, 2017 Report Share Posted April 23, 2017 Dunno how u'll get on but the quad dealership says its an absolute nightmare to register older quads for the road. They told us when we 1st looked at buying a 2nd hand bike it was next to impossible, but possibly they were just wanting to sell a new bike. I've only registered new bikes and even that can be a pain (esp the first time as insurers want a number plate and need ins to get a number plate) Not so bad when u change bikes thou Also lots of grey areas, sometime insist on indicators sometimes not (even from same dealership?? within 6 months of each other??) Depends on the roads ur travelling and how busy they are and how often u'd do it, quad ins can be quite dear and very few insurers will do it, Adrain flux used to be 1 of the few that did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Yeah we'll see how I get on It doesnt help that I'm struggling to read the vin number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 I have got an old Yamaha motor 4 250. Didn't have any paperwork with it. I registered it by sending the vin number and engine number to DVLA and they gave me a Q plate for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Sounds positive flyeruk. So far, in common with a lot of other owners of older Yamaha Quadbikes, I'm struggling to find an engine number or vin number, some didn't have an engine number and the vin is in a silly place next to the front wheel in the firing line for mud gravel and all the rest that 17 years of use on the hill has thrown at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted May 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 Bit of an update on this..I've got the DVLA form to register it and the agricultural route seems to circumnavigate any need for type approval documents, certificates of compliance etc.....found an engine number and former keeper is getting in touch with the vin...been in touch with the NFU who will insure it on a serial number for £150 TPFT, I need that in place to proceed with the registering and tax, so watch this space. A farmer told me its ok to go into town to fill up with petrol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted May 7, 2017 Report Share Posted May 7, 2017 I'm pretty sure,to get it agri registered,you will still need a certificate of conformity.These are available from Yamaha for £40 . Might be wrong about needing one but don't think I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 I'm pretty sure,to get it agri registered,you will still need a certificate of conformity.These are available from Yamaha for £40 . Might be wrong about needing one but don't think I am. I think its a bit of a blur in DVLA land. Apparently non conformity is ok for Agri vehicles according to farming forums. Guys on the Racing quad forums are getting Agri/PLG tickets by default and I'm taking heart from posts on the Stalking forums who agree with the farmers, but time will tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manthing Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 What ever you do keep all the paperwork as some government employee somewhere will think they know better than everyone else and call foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted May 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Little update, The NFU insured it on the engine number and I just got the policy back......"Any Driver"!!! Unusual that, I assumed t would just me the policyholder. Theres lots of legitimate countryside based activities listed that mean I'm covered for most uses. I've sent a V55 form to DVLA with a £55 cheque so we will see what happens at their end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted June 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Another update, DVLA sent back my form with a letter stating that they had allocated the quad a vin number which I have to stamp on the frame and then have a garage check it and fill in a form, and stamp it, which confirms to DVLA that it's been done, the number begins with the letters DVLA, Its a delay but a step in the right direction as no other issues have been raised. Edited June 1, 2017 by nabbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted June 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 OK so I got my frame stamped with the serial number that DVLA sent me because mine had worn off whilst the original owner gave it a hard life in the peat bogs and rocky terrain of the Yorkshire moors. The garage signed a letter and rubber stamped it as requested by DVLA. DVLA had returned my paperwork with the instruction to stamp the frame with their number and had amended the forms, so in Taxation class they put "Agriculture" and in the type approval boxes they wrote "Exempt-Agricultural vehicle", so in fact they need very little info to proceed. Hopefully thats it, just need to await the registration document and then I can get a plate made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 10, 2017 Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 interesting........................... how far are you allowed to drive it on the roads...............in my day it used to be a certain radius (miles) from where it was registered....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted June 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2017 Various theories on this, nothing concrete so far....My NFU Insurance allows business or pleasure use in connection with agricultural/country activities, including shows, fencing, forestry, farming, fencing, road use 5 miles radius from land on which you have a reason to be on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ok, this one has reached a happy conclusion, I now have the V5 document, the quad is taxed, insured and on the road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 what class agricultural plg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 It just says 'agricultural vehicle" Armsid, Very little info on the reg document. Checked on the the database and it comes up as taxed and MOT exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 It just says 'agricultural vehicle" Armsid, Very little info on the reg document. Checked on the the database and it comes up as taxed and MOT exempt. Agricultural then if it's tax and mot exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandspider Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 I've got a second hand grey import compact tractor that I'd like to register for road use. I've got insurance for it, including road use. However, I got a huge form from the DVLA to fill in to register it. It asks for lots of info I don't have or am not sure of - type approval, weight, power, taxation class etc. (Don't have the form to hand, but some things it asked for were really obscure). Did you have to fill out all this info, or can you skip it and just put the basics? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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