OldBill Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Good grief. 1st time I've stripped a semi down as per instructions for cleaning- down to firing pin. How fiddly can you get Even just stripping down to component parts is grief, all for that extra bang and not as simple as my U/O & SBS either. How often do people strip down to the firing pin? I'm a stickler for cleaning guns- after every use. I know some people leave theirs for hundreds of rounds but I can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 my escort is in pieces in no more than 2 mins, totaly stripped bare, mine was playing up miss fireing cuz i was cleaning and then over oiling to much, I dont think semis need much more cleaning than normal, other than keeping the gas piston oiled on gas recoil guns anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Benelli nearly falls apart in your hands can have it in a few pieces without any tools in a min or so! Its mechanically operated and nothing to clean its pretty much all chromed as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 they do strip very quickly and you can spend as much or as little time cleaning as you like but i normally do a big clean every 5 outings and the other times just the barrel and the mag tube gets scrubbed. But again it depends on the amount of use it gets on an outing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 My Franchi comes apart really easy. I just put a canvas sheet down on the table, take it to bits, spray some solvent around the piston and cylinder. Its not as quick as cleaning my sbs but i must be weird cos i enjoy cleaning my guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I find my urika easy to strip a few bits are a llittle awkard to clean but i just get on with it as im sad as i like cleaning it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldini Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 391 dishwasher then hot radiator lube up and back in ya gun job done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 dishwasher I've heard it all now but dont know whether to believe you or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dishwasher is good but I put any small parts in a mesh Persil tablet bag first. Fairy does a great job, rinse well afterwards due to the salts. No wood............. hope this goes without saying!!!!! dishwasher I've heard it all now but dont know whether to believe you or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 my escort is in pieces in no more than 2 mins, totaly stripped bare, mine was playing up miss fireing cuz i was cleaning and then over oiling to much, I dont think semis need much more cleaning than normal, other than keeping the gas piston oiled on gas recoil guns anyway ive noticed that as well with my escort when i clean it i seem to get a few miss fireing, but when i dont clean it for a time or 2 it works no probs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGun1 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 I have an ultrasonic cleaning bath in work that is supposed to be for car injector cleaning, just the job for cleaning all the bits of my semi! Hate to think what the boss would say if he knew what I was up to :thumbs: Don't know how much one would cost, but it is highly reccomended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Good grief. 1st time I've stripped a semi down as per instructions for cleaning- down to firing pin. How fiddly can you get Even just stripping down to component parts is grief, all for that extra bang and not as simple as my U/O & SBS either. How often do people strip down to the firing pin? I'm a stickler for cleaning guns- after every use. I know some people leave theirs for hundreds of rounds but I can't :thumbs: BUY A BERETTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 BUY A BERETTA. How does that help?? :thumbs: My Berretta didn't come with a small elf to clean my gun...did I miss out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 BUY A BERETTA. How does that help?? :thumbs: My Berretta didn't come with a small elf to clean my gun...did I miss out?? its the easiest semi to clean, i have a elf for sale. if you want one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 easier than a mechanically operated benelli :thumbs: Nothing to clean on a benelli no gas system nothing bolt is completely chomed as is the end of the barrel and the cartridge lever to disessemble take the barrel off bolt will then practically fall out then knock the pin out holding in the trigger mech and thats it bit of oil here and there and slap it back together. or take off the stock and throw the whole thing in the dishwasher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 i can t see any auto easier to clean than the franchi 712 its a piece of ****,i hope beretta are easy to clean cause im going to look at a 303 just for field use this week some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabo Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 BUY A BERETTA. How does that help?? :thumbs: My Berretta didn't come with a small elf to clean my gun...did I miss out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Bill Many years ago I served my student apprenticeship in mechanical engineering in a glass works. The anlalagy used by the old hands was "if it aint f'ed, dont fix it" on the other hand managements mantra was " preventitive maintenance pays" After 30 odd years of practice I can report that both approaches have their deciples and benefits, I therefore practice both. I have owned a few Beretta semi autos, and have stripped them down to the nth degree, but thats out of my interest to know exactly how it works and how its made. I clean all my guns when I get home, but this is a minimal regime, of clean barell with a Paradox cleaner and a simple sqirt here and there with WD40, followed by a quick wipe down with an oily rag. Around once a year, on one of those horbible wet and windy days, I set up and do a grand slam on the whole arsenal, stripping and cleaning everything. It is true that gas autos need to be kept clean, but not surgically clean. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBill Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Bill Many years ago I served my student apprenticeship in mechanical engineering in a glass works. The anlalagy used by the old hands was "if it aint f'ed, dont fix it" on the other hand managements mantra was " preventitive maintenance pays" After 30 odd years of practice I can report that both approaches have their deciples and benefits, I therefore practice both. I have owned a few Beretta semi autos, and have stripped them down to the nth degree, but thats out of my interest to know exactly how it works and how its made. I clean all my guns when I get home, but this is a minimal regime, of clean barell with a Paradox cleaner and a simple sqirt here and there with WD40, followed by a quick wipe down with an oily rag. Around once a year, on one of those horbible wet and windy days, I set up and do a grand slam on the whole arsenal, stripping and cleaning everything. It is true that gas autos need to be kept clean, but not surgically clean. webber Webber, Top man. Just what I wanted to hear- a bit a reassurance that a total strip down to firing pin after every outing was a load of boolacks. Unless there is a plethora of people who disagree that'll be my way forward with the auto. Thanks everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 I find my urika easy to strip a few bits are a llittle awkard to clean but i just get on with it as im sad as i like cleaning it lol :thumbs: I wash my gold mallard bits in white spirit with a paint brush easy. gets all the **** out of the breech and cheaper than stuff from the gunshop I must add I do this after 5/600 shots. dont try this with an escort or remmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-peter Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Bill Many years ago I served my student apprenticeship in mechanical engineering in a glass works. The anlalagy used by the old hands was "if it aint f'ed, dont fix it" on the other hand managements mantra was " preventitive maintenance pays" After 30 odd years of practice I can report that both approaches have their deciples and benefits, I therefore practice both. I have owned a few Beretta semi autos, and have stripped them down to the nth degree, but thats out of my interest to know exactly how it works and how its made. I clean all my guns when I get home, but this is a minimal regime, of clean barell with a Paradox cleaner and a simple sqirt here and there with WD40, followed by a quick wipe down with an oily rag. Around once a year, on one of those horbible wet and windy days, I set up and do a grand slam on the whole arsenal, stripping and cleaning everything. It is true that gas autos need to be kept clean, but not surgically clean. webber Webber, Top man. Just what I wanted to hear- a bit a reassurance that a total strip down to firing pin after every outing was a load of boolacks. Unless there is a plethora of people who disagree that'll be my way forward with the auto. Thanks everyone. quite right however beware of wd40. it tends to disolve solder over a time, (from a top gunsmith.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBill Posted June 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 quite right however beware of wd40. it tends to disolve solder over a time, (from a top gunsmith.) I was gonna substitute Napier. That's okay isn't it. Only just started using this new fangled stuff... been using ordinary gun oil for 30 yrs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Peter With all due respect, spherical objects, ( from a top engineer) I would love to learn the theory behind WD40 disolving solder webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 i can clean my beretta 687 silver pigeon II thoroughly in 20 to 30 minutes. my beretta al391 gas semi takes over twice as long to properly clean. i like the 391 alot, but being a gas operated gun it gets filthy after 300 to 500 shells. any gas operated gun will be filthy after a good bit of shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 i have a documents with my 391's that tells me it dosent require cleaning at all, works for me, i dont clean them, they keep on going and going and going, sound familiar Martin lives by the rule if it aint broke dont fix it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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