Milo Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Hi All, I would be grateful for the experiences of any members who have used cartridges from Purbeck Shooting Supplies, or elsewhere, loaded with the water soluble Green Shoot "plastic" wads. Have done a search on this topic and found nothing. Thanks, Milo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Milo said: Hi All, I would be grateful for the experiences of any members who have used cartridges from Purbeck Shooting Supplies, or elsewhere, loaded with the water soluble Green Shoot "plastic" wads. Have done a search on this topic and found nothing. Thanks, Milo. Not helpful to yourself But i emailed them a couple of times about some Steel shot biogradable wads they never have replied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 They don`t seem to have progressed in the marketplace considering they`ve been available for several years now. Good idea but getting anyone to accept that they will degrade,is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Thanks, guys. My understanding is that these water soluble versions do degrade properly and quickly, unlike the photo-degradable wads. would like to test them as it seems the sensible way ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) Well well I actually know a chap who invented a type of water soluble plastic but I never thought it would appear in shotgun cartridges, he sold the design / formula for a reasonable sum some years ago. The relevance of this post is if it is the same type of water soluble plastic then it is an English invention. Edited January 13, 2018 by sportsbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Read years ago about some starch based biodegradable wads. If they get damp they won’t be much good at protecting your barrels from the steel shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 They should be good but Purbeck seem to have not done anything to market this product sadly. I’d use them if the wad degrades for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 The third-party test that I found online was positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, figgy said: Read years ago about some starch based biodegradable wads. If they get damp they won’t be much good at protecting your barrels from the steel shot. Was that Biowads ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 Matone I can’t remember the exact name of the wads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted January 13, 2018 Report Share Posted January 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, figgy said: Matone I can’t remember the exact name of the wads. The ones i used was B&P from Italy who directed me to Clay Game who claimed no longer stock them as nobody interested !!!!! Well i am/was but they never got me any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fronty61 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 I`ve used the Armusa ammo at Purbeck for some time, in 12 and 28 bore, they perform well in all my selection of Wabbitbosher bargains, and my better Brownings, also for my walkup and decoy game..good price, and accepted on the Somerset estate where I`ve been shooting for 10 years. I did research and am confident that they do degrade as advertised..hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 40 minutes ago, fronty61 said: I`ve used the Armusa ammo at Purbeck for some time, in 12 and 28 bore, they perform well in all my selection of Wabbitbosher bargains, and my better Brownings, also for my walkup and decoy game..good price, and accepted on the Somerset estate where I`ve been shooting for 10 years. I did research and am confident that they do degrade as advertised..hope this helps. Thanks, Fronty. Very helpful. Couple of questions - I also use a 28 bore from time to time. I can't see any reference on their website to a degradable wad version in 28 bore. Can you tell me what load you are using? Do you have an email or phone number for Purbeck as I would like to put in an order. Thanks, Milo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Milo said: Thanks, Fronty. Very helpful. Couple of questions - I also use a 28 bore from time to time. I can't see any reference on their website to a degradable wad version in 28 bore. Can you tell me what load you are using? Do you have an email or phone number for Purbeck as I would like to put in an order. Thanks, Milo. 01929 405101 http://www.greenshootcartridges.com/ Edited January 14, 2018 by dodeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, dodeer said: 01929 405101 Thanks, Dodeer. In case members might find it useful, I will try to get a delivery of 32g GreenShoots and report back on a comparison with RC SIPE fibre 32g which, for me, are the cartridge to beat. I prefer the shooting characteristics of normal plastic wads but won't use them. If George from Proper is reading I would very much like his opinion on these wads. As previous members have said, it would seem like the way to go. Thanks, Milo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Those wads look old. The product is 2 parts. Biodegradable plastic. And wad moulding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Milo said: Thanks, Dodeer. In case members might find it useful, I will try to get a delivery of 32g GreenShoots and report back on a comparison with RC SIPE fibre 32g which, for me, are the cartridge to beat. I prefer the shooting characteristics of normal plastic wads but won't use them. If George from Proper is reading I would very much like his opinion on these wads. As previous members have said, it would seem like the way to go. Thanks, Milo. Please do. I am obliged to use fibre but it looks as though these would be a viable option. Just a shame there's no 6&1/2s or 7s in their pigeon range. Would be interested to see if their detailed prices remain currently valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, wymberley said: Please do. I am obliged to use fibre but it looks as though these would be a viable option. Just a shame there's no 6&1/2s or 7s in their pigeon range. Would be interested to see if their detailed prices remain currently valid. Thanks, Wymberley, I'll report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Will be interesting to see what price the cartridges are as the price list via the website link for purbeck looks to be 2014 John at Zfolkestone engineering supplies has one of the wads in a little plastic bag hanging from a shelf! they are made from PVA yes wood glue and supplied in foil sealed bags with shelf life of one year talk to john he tell you more but his conclusion was given that they are made in Spain one of the leading countries for cartridge manufacturing if they were any good then they would be snapped up by the manufactures when in practice it looks like only one smallish manufacture has used them. Rb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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