villaman Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 On 03/08/2018 at 00:04, Mini Magnum said: The thing is, regulated guns give you a more consistent power curve..BUT you've got more to go wrong, seals, wandering power, etc Haven't had a problem with regulated guns ,I just hate power curves plus up and downs you get with unregulated guns Most shooters want regs and that's why Air Arms and Daystate have just started to install regs in some of the guns make sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 Yes but just coz people want something doesn't mean it's necessary. I shoot HFT with an MPR FT unregulated. It doesn't need one. It'll shoot flat for 50 pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini Magnum Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 I was speaking to someone from ASI the UK FX distributors and mentioned I had an original unregulated original FX rifle, they said keep it !!! Less to go wrong, mines an FAC and I get 70 VERY consistent shots, sometimes simple is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 SO IF THIS IS THE CASE WHY ARE DAYSTATE AND AIR ARMS STARTED TO INSTALL REGS IN THE NEW GUNS COMING OUT AND IF REGS ARE THAT MUCH OF A PROBLEM WHY DO MOST GUN COMPANYS FIT THEM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 As you very well know villaman . Huma has perfected the art of the regulator .previous attempts by bsa ,ben taylor , lane , etc haven't always been fantastically reliable .and as such a company like air arms (which pride themselves on reliability ) have held off regs till now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 Funnily enough was shooting with an AA employee today a this very subject came up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr.C said: Funnily enough was shooting with an AA employee today a this very subject came up. So what did they say?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr.C said: Funnily enough was shooting with an AA employee today a this very subject came up. And ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) Let's just say that we agreed that for what we ( he and I shoot HFT only) need they are unnecessary on an air arms rifle. In our opinion. Edited August 5, 2018 by Mr.C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) By design PCP's have an almost built in regulator - when the hammer strikes (via the valve) against the cylinder's internal pressure the valve will be forced closed by said pressure and the speed of closing will determine how long the valve remains open - short bursts of high pressure versus longer bursts of a lower pressure as stored pressure drops - a regulator simply maintains a constant feed of constant pressure to the valve - more consistency and less wasted air. In real terms the most difference will be felt at both extremes of shot count capability - for arguments sake the first and last 30 shots (don't forget....MOST difference) - you can avoid this problem by A / charging your rifle less than it's max refill level and B/ knowing how many shots your gun is capable of before velocity starts to noticeably drop - in short the "sweet spot" - if you have this latter information then you should routinely carry that amount of pellets - simple. If you buy a regulated gun then life is generally a little easier for you but it is not the cure all that some may think and it does not make you a good shot, it simply removes one of the variables. Is it my imagination or are members getting on a lot better than in previous years - it's so refreshing to read genuine questions and intelligent answers from members on this section - you are all a credit to our sport. p.s. Walker570 - thank you for your kind remarks. Edited August 5, 2018 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Reg or not , its all about knowing when you do your bit , the pellet goes where the cross hairs are pointing . The reg just helps how many times it will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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