bornfree Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just bought a 682x trap 32" 3/4 and full fixed choke. As it's a non selective trigger and iam using it for sporting what would you open it up to? Iam thinking of 3/8 and 3/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 If you’re an experienced shooter I personally wouldn’t alter it; I’d just learn to shoot with it. I don’t really regard tight chokes as a drawback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1/2 x 3/4 should cover everything , just remember once taken out , cannot be put back, I use 1/2 and 1/2 a lot but then I have ten chokes to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 If you really must then 1/2 & 1/2 but I personally wouldn't do that to that particular model. I did have a low mileage DT10 minter Trap opened out to 1/2 & 3/4 but I then also coughed up £450 to have it fitted with a barrel selector, the reason being I knew I could get the costs back if I ever sold it - and I did. The 682X is a much cheaper gun and having it fitted with multi chokes is probably too expensive because realistically you then should also do the barrel selector which is not sensible cost wise. Bear in mind that the X being a semi high rib is best suited to DTL and not really quite the animal for ESP, one more reason for not going wild on spending. To recap, leave as is or go 1/2 & 1/2, you may, just, not lose money upon resale but you will have done a slight disservice to the guns intended purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Scully said: If you’re an experienced shooter I personally wouldn’t alter it; I’d just learn to shoot with it. I don’t really regard tight chokes as a drawback. As the world sporting champion only uses 1/2 and 1/2 I think 3/4 and full is a bit much for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 If you get it bored out it will knock money off it, why did you not buy a Sporter? A few years ago I bought a 682X to use as an all round gun, anything going away was smoked but I could not get on with the high rib even though the gun was nicely balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, bornfree said: As the world sporting champion only uses 1/2 and 1/2 I think 3/4 and full is a bit much for us Who he ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Hamster said: Who he ? Richard bunning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, bornfree said: Richard bunning Great, but then seeing as many more shots have won the same title and more besides whilst using tighter chokes why not use them as examples !?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Hamster said: Great, but then seeing as many more shots have won the same title and more besides whilst using tighter chokes why not use them as examples !?! Have you honestly ever seen a target on a sporting round that an optima green choke wouldn't break and break well. But will a bored out 682x match an optima choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, bornfree said: Have you honestly ever seen a target on a sporting round that an optima green choke wouldn't break and break well. Wouldn't is a "loaded" word, Skeet would break most targets, it wouldn't have a useful break signature though, 1/2 does and will break some silly distance birds but if you accept and understand what chokes do then you have to accept and understand that on some presentations keeping more of the pellets together for longer has to help, statistically. If I came across a very distant Teal or edgy quartering I would definitely feel better with Full, confidence alone is worth the odd pellet but, again, I say if you understand and accept what chokes do then you have to accept a denser pattern is at times preferable. I say this as someone who uses 1/2 & 1/2 or 3/4 almost exclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hamster said: Wouldn't is a "loaded" word, Skeet would break most targets, it wouldn't have a useful break signature though, 1/2 does and will break some silly distance birds but if you accept and understand what chokes do then you have to accept and understand that on some presentations keeping more of the pellets together for longer has to help, statistically. If I came across a very distant Teal or edgy quartering I would definitely feel better with Full, confidence alone is worth the odd pellet but, again, I say if you understand and accept what chokes do then you have to accept a denser pattern is at times preferable. I say this as someone who uses 1/2 & 1/2 or 3/4 almost exclusively. But now many shoots do you get a target like that these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, bornfree said: But now many shoots do you get a target like that these days? It doesn't affect you and me but statistically it will help the top shots, their problem is not really shot placement after all, Championships are usually won/lost with a single target. Most top shots use tight chokes, quite a few use Full & Full, none use 3/8's although I have a lot of time for that myself ! There must be a reason why they prefer tight and I believe it's because they don't take chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Paul Simpson uses 1/4 quite often and he is among the top shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 I’ve gone 5/8s / 5/8s on a sporterised DT trap gun, never regretted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 12 hours ago, bornfree said: Just bought a 682x trap 32" 3/4 and full fixed choke. As it's a non selective trigger and iam using it for sporting what would you open it up to? Iam thinking of 3/8 and 3/8 Should have found a multi-choked version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Should have found a multi-choked version! Not many about in 32" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just shoot it as it is and see how it goes, far too many shooters think about chokes instead of just focusing on the target and putting the barrels in the right place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 hours ago, bornfree said: Not many about in 32" I’ve had three 32” and the two fixed choke ones seemed to handle better than the multichoke. Started off with a fixed choke, then had it teagued because I thought I was disadvantaged on the close stuff. Then bought a multichoke and didn’t like that , eventually sold those two and went back to a fixed 3/4 and full which I shot well with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Should have found a multi-choked version! 5 hours ago, bornfree said: Not many about in 32" I know, but there is one in the left hand cabinet and it has those long Beretta Mobil chokes in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 20 hours ago, bornfree said: As the world sporting champion only uses 1/2 and 1/2 I think 3/4 and full is a bit much for us I don’t know who you mean by ‘us’, but like I said, ‘personally’ I’d leave it alone and learn to shoot with it. There isn’t a lot that half and half won’t cover, but I shoot Sporting with high rib trap guns choked full and full and find it great fun, even for close in birds. I won’t ever be competing at world level but will be going tighter with my sporter also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Scully said: I don’t know who you mean by ‘us’, but like I said, ‘personally’ I’d leave it alone and learn to shoot with it. There isn’t a lot that half and half won’t cover, but I shoot Sporting with high rib trap guns choked full and full and find it great fun, even for close in birds. I won’t ever be competing at world level but will be going tighter with my sporter also. Amen to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, Scully said: I don’t know who you mean by ‘us’, but like I said, ‘personally’ I’d leave it alone and learn to shoot with it. There isn’t a lot that half and half won’t cover, but I shoot Sporting with high rib trap guns choked full and full and find it great fun, even for close in birds. I won’t ever be competing at world level but will be going tighter with my sporter also. Us. As in mere mortals and not world champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, bornfree said: Us. As in mere mortals and not world champions. Ah, I see. It would seem there are some who would beg to differ on your comment ‘3/4 and full is a bit much for us’. Try it, you’ll be surprised. It certainly concentrates the mind. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timerider Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 05/01/2019 at 19:14, Scully said: Ah, I see. It would seem there are some who would beg to differ on your comment ‘3/4 and full is a bit much for us’. Try it, you’ll be surprised. It certainly concentrates the mind. 🙂 I don`t shoot clays, most of my shooting is at pigeons or crows, I`ve been using 1/4 and 1/4 for a while, but recently bought a Breda with 3/4 and full, I still miss just as many with the Breda as I did with the 1/4 1/4 😁 but the ones I do hit drop every time. I was told by a very successful shooter to get used to whatever I shot and enjoy! which is good advice in my opinion 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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